jpappl,
Okay.
...and you can't prove I don't have invisible elephants in my yard.
You're just reiterating my point.
You don't even see the ridiculousness of your argument.
Relax, i only asked a question.
Yes it is. Here:
(Jan) You can't prove that god is not controlling evolution, so it must be controlling evolution.
(Me) You can't prove there are not invisible elephants in my yard, I believe they are there, since you can't prove they aren't, there must be invisibile elephants in my yard.
Do you see the faulty logic.
Yes I can see the faulty logic, but that's not what I said.
I merely stated a point (which you agreed with) but came to no conclusion.
My thoughts on the matter formulates my belief, which I said I cannot prove.
No see link above. It only makes the "best" sense to you because you believe it.
Given the subject matter, I don't think it is circular reasoning at all.
To make a decision as to whether one believes in God, God does not exist, or to come to the conclusion that there is no evidence for God, requires a belief.
You cannot know that there is no evidence for God.
Futhermore and on the other hand, you ignore the mountain of evidence which would go against your fantasy. ”
This is the point.
What is the evidence that go against a supreme, trancendental being?
Here is an example.
1) We are here with a purpose correct ?
2a) Gods greatest creation and
2b) god is omnipotent and omniscient.
3) Why create and destroy thousands of species, dinosaurs etc beforehand. ?
4) It makes no sense that an omniscient being would need to do so, or it's not omniscient.
5) Maybe you can try to answer that logically and then see if your idea still makes sense.
1) Okay, let's go with that.
2a) Irrelevant.
2b) Okay.
3) The natural course of things is they come into being, remain for a time, then die. From any scripture the process of life is come about between the asociation of spirit and matter. Spirit is God's nature, and matter is material nature. The spirit is never extinguished.
4) The choice is made by the individual spiritual spark (soul), which act according to it's condition.
5) It makes complete sense.
How about the entire fossil record. Then answer the above question poised.
The fossil record cannot determine whether or not God exists.
Why would god need to practice on transitional forms ?
I don't know what you mean.
If we are here with purpose (whatever that may be) why use evolution as the process because there was a very good chance that we may not have made it at all.
I don't think "God" used evolution as a process.
The evidence is that we evolved. There is no evidence that a god is involved in our creation.
What is it about the evidence that convinces you that God did not originally design the forms, for souls to inhabit?
Do you accept that we evolved ? regardless of whether god was involved or not.
I don't see how we evolved from one cell to this abundance of life forms.
The explanation of the evidence doesn't reveal that to me. If I was to accept it, it would be based purely on blind faith.
You are adding that which does not need to be added to satisfy your belief. The reality is we evolved. The god part is just you fantasizing and is unnecessary.
Obviously it's not as simple as that, as there are scientists and people with a good fund of knowledge of evolution who disagree. And there are people who believe evolution to be truth, without actually understanding it but accept it anyway.
jan.
