Why Aren't All Ghosts Naked?

[Grantywanty]

By all means people see things but most of the time it's just a hyperactive imagination or an inner need for attention.

You just presented two theories for which you have no proof. Why should we trust your intution and not our own?

 

[Grantywanty]

Another thing....Why do the people who see ghosts not consider themselves hallucinating? Or do they only imagine clothes and other inanimate objects when ghost viewing.

I am sure most people who see ghosts quickly come up with a 'scientific' or other explanation to dismiss the possibility that they are seeing a ghost.

I sure tried to.

 

[Stryder]

You just presented two theories for which you have no proof. Why should we trust your intution and not our own?

People allege they see ghosts and do so to appear on television programs, they offer no proof but they tell their tall tale and perhaps get paid for their story if not thrive on the sensationalism of being on television. The proof is actually in these television shows.

The statement of sensationalism can be taken further with certain shows that send "Mystics" and paranormal investigators to confirm or dismiss a sighting, it was stated on another television programs show involving the 100 greatest shams on television that such shows are themselves a sham. The Mystics are just actresses and it's all a stage show for the unwitting but gullible public. If you want proof there as I've stated before write to the studios that produce such "Ghost programs" and asking them if it's "Fact or Fiction". If they say it's fact and it's proven fiction then they could be subjected to a lawsuit so they shouldn't lie.

 

[Dr_Zinj]

Arthur C Clark

Although Astronaut Bowman in the 2001, 2010, 3010 books wasn't exactly a ghost, Clark does portray his manifestations as concentrating on his face, but having only a vaguely human body with no sexual differentiation (probably nothing at all down there). The implication being that Bowman is now beyond things as limiting as human sexuality or even clothing.

The movie presentations on the otherhand, were fully detailed only because the censors would have had a hissy fit.

 

[Grantywanty]

People allege they see ghosts and do so to appear on television programs, they offer no proof but they tell their tall tale and perhaps get paid for their story if not thrive on the sensationalism of being on television. The proof is actually in these television shows.

People have been seeing ghosts for a long time, long before TV, and long before the kinds of realitydocusoap and interview garbage shows we are flooded with now. Many people just tell people close to them. Some will only tell interviewers if they can be anonymous. Etc. Etc. Sure some people get attention for it. But even if that attention-seeking in that very small subset of those who see ghosts is part of their motivation this does not prove that is their only motivation. Debunkers get attention also. Scientists who ramble on about what they think is not possible get attention. Can I dismiss them as liars also?

The statement of sensationalism can be taken further with certain shows that send "Mystics" and paranormal investigators to confirm or dismiss a sighting, it was stated on another television programs show involving the 100 greatest shams on television that such shows are themselves a sham. The Mystics are just actresses and it's all a stage show for the unwitting but gullible public. If you want proof there as I've stated before write to the studios that produce such "Ghost programs" and asking them if it's "Fact or Fiction". If they say it's fact and it's proven fiction then they could be subjected to a lawsuit so they shouldn't lie.

Again, small subset.
Television is exploiting and faking and sensationalizine things from all sort of fields. I don't use the behavior of TV producers to determine what is really going on in the world. Do You?

Your theory remains unproven.

And you know, having met and interviewed many people who have seen ghosts - I am speaking about 100s whose names never got into any newspapers, nor their images on any TV - very, very few fit your idea. Many of them I met through referral from close friends and at first they refused to talk about it. Only after I told them their names would not be associated with it were they willing to talk to me.
It was clear that many did not want to believe and came to their beliefs slowly and unpleasantly.
But go ahead, set up a real study of the topic at some university. Come back and make your claims when you have some real science behind it, since that is what you value. But now I hear speculation and guesses that do not fit my experience, which I suspect is much more direct and extensive than yours.

You are just guessing.

 

[shaman_]

It sounds like you have a bit of experience here Grantywanty. Have you come across evidence other than anecdotal?

 

[Stryder]

People have been seeing ghosts for a long time, long before TV, and long before the kinds of realitydocusoap and interview garbage shows we are flooded with now. ....
Can I dismiss them as liars also?

Looking at Ghosts historically you'll find that people obviously didn't have things like television to keep them occupied. They either had to read books (if of course they could read) or "Socialise". If you suggest that you are ghost hunter or paranormal investigator, then you should know the history of the Victorian Palour game period where people took whim to flights of fancy. People believed in necromancy and did ouija boards not so much because it was real, but mainly due to it being something social that they could all embark upon.

Some ghosts were also invented for particular purposes like scaring away people from smugglers operations or even body snatching operations. (That's when people actually would steal dead bodies for a number of various sordid reasons.)

Again, small subset.
Television is exploiting and faking and sensationalizing things from all sort of fields. I don't use the behavior of TV producers to determine what is really going on in the world. Do You?

No but some people out there believe what they see "Reported" on Television.

Your theory remains unproven ... having met and interviewed many people who have seen ghosts - I am speaking about 100s whose names never got into any newspapers, nor their images on any TV - very, very few fit your idea.

Many of them I met through referral from close friends and at first they refused to talk about it. Only after I told them their names would not be associated with it were they willing to talk to me.
It was clear that many did not want to believe and came to their beliefs slowly and unpleasantly.
But go ahead, set up a real study of the topic at some university. Come back and make your claims when you have some real science behind it, since that is what you value. But now I hear speculation and guesses that do not fit my experience, which I suspect is much more direct and extensive than yours.

You are just guessing.

There is nothing to "Guess" about, there is more scientific proof available to suggest that death is Absolute, only some people cling to belief systems that have been founded by thousands of years of denial.

Understand I'm not suggesting that 100% of these people are frauds, SOME might see "Something" which they can't explain or perhaps allow their minds to fill in gaps and draw up assumptions.

There are some very simple questions you could ask if you truly believe in ghosts that will undermine your belief's. For instance the post initiator has used "Why aren't all ghosts naked?", however there are others...

Why aren't their ghosts of dinosaurs? (Obviously reply would probably refer to Lochness, yet totally miss out on the details about the guy that was involved in the apparent sightings spoofing Nessy)

If people have been dieing for thousands of years, why aren't all of their ghosts present? Suggestibly if ghosts exist, it would obviously be too crowded a place for the living and the "rare" sightings obviously wouldn't be so rare.

I think it can pretty much be suggested that there is no need to dream up some extravagant experiment to prove anything other than the fact that only people claiming extreme beliefs are after extreme facts.