When am I not human anymore?

DaveC426913 said:
You have the right to not have your body be subjected to indignities (as attested by the fact that it is a punishable crime for someone to do so.)
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I understand that to be a RESTRICTION placed on others NOT a right granted to your body

But if you can find as a right granted, by law, to your body I would appreciate a link

DaveC426913 said:
You have the right to have your will and testament honoured.
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NO. Your will is only post death instruction request (strong request but non binding) on how you would prefer your estate to be divided up but can be overturned by the courts on various grounds

Even the disposal of your body, ie organ donation, can be objected to by relatives

Less contraversal would be if you're wishes contravened some regulation ie you would like your ashes to be scattered in your favorable park. Cannot see that happening

Most areas would have regulations governing the disposal of bodies which would almost certainly override your request

:)
 
Beer w/Straw said:
"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you
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Since you are dead and no longer in controlling of your body you may not be able to remain silent

The fermentation of fluid in your gastric tract can lead to burping and farting

Best to apologise before you die

:)
 
Well, I got convicted of indecent exposure, theft, trespassing and whatever charge pooping on someone's lawn was... The judge didn't buy my defense that: "I wasn't thinking at the time".

My dog didn't get charged with anything for doing the exact same things (neither did he have any complaints about the sausage).
 
Michael 345 said:
I understand that to be a RESTRICTION placed on others NOT a right granted to your body

But if you can find as a right granted, by law, to your body I would appreciate a link
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We are on a tangent now, as to what the legalities are.

The fact remains, a dead human is still a human.
I don't know what makes you think it would change to something else.
To what? An anvil? A gerund?
 
:rolleye: hmmmmmm...

If an amoeba ate my brain less one cell, would I really be human or more just a human brain cell?
 
DaveC426913 said:
You'd still be a human with no brain.
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OK, if my brain was eaten less a brain cell, and that cell was given life support outside the body, and the body was given the electrical impulses or whatever to keep it functioning, which part is human, or are there now two existing humans from one?
 
DaveC426913 said:
If not human, what is it?
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Dead body. No rights. No abilities. Being human requires concessness, how ever small.

Beer w/Straw's two connected neurones would not be enough to render a body to life, hence that body would be a dead body

The dead body is no more a human in the same way as a dead parrot is not a parrot



Thanks Monty

Mr. Praline: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Series_1/53.htm

:)
 
Beer w/Straw said:
OK, if my brain was eaten less a brain cell, and that cell was given life support outside the body, and the body was given the electrical impulses or whatever to keep it functioning, which part is human, or are there now two existing humans from one?
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I don't know of any mechanical / electrical equipment which could / would be available to keep a body without a brain functioning. It might be theoretical possible with a collection of equipment but very unpractical. So ruling that part out it is not human

Brain cell much more easy to maintain functional but in and of itself not human

Two from one your talking cloning

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If someone had to make a choice of saving the life of one brain cell compared to that of an entire human body without any brain, what would someone choose?

Can someone empathize with a body without a brain?

:EDIT:

Can a human body without a brain have even any semblance of emotion at all?
 
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Michael 345 said:
Dead body. No rights. No abilities.
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So, a police officer has absolutely no way of reporting the distinction between "a dead body that used to be a human" and "a dead body that used to be a parrot".
They're both The Same Thing - A Dead Body, just that one weighs 150lbs and one weighs 150oz.

What does the officer write in his book?

It will be very awkward when the officer is testifying on the stand three months down the road, and the prosecutor asks him
"What is the victim's name, officer?"
"Polly."
"Last name?"
"No last name."
"No last name? Everyone has a last name!"
"Not this dead body."
"Why would this person not have a last name?"
"It's not a person; it's a dead body. As for why it had no last name, I wish I knew myself." : scratches chin : "I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that - when it was a alive - it was a parrot. But of course that's not relevant now, since it is merely an indiscriminately dead body - neither human nor parrot nor anything else."
"Are you saying that we have been in trial for the last three months over a parrot????"
"It's not a parrot; it's a dead body."
"We assumed it was human! Why didn't you tell us!!"
"Nobody ever asked me what the dead body was before it was dead, (and even if they did, I have no way of telling them. After all, what's the difference between one dead body and another?). It's just a dead body; nothing more."

Silly? Yup.

As silly as the idea that a dead human is not still a human.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
So, a police officer has absolutely no way of reporting the distinction between "a dead body that used to be a human" and "a dead body that used to be a parrot".
They're both The Same Thing - A Dead Body, just that one weighs 150lbs and one weighs 150oz.

What does the officer write in his book?

It will be very awkward when the officer is testifying on the stand three months down the road, and the prosecutor asks him
"What is the victim's name, officer?"
"Polly."
"Last name?"
"No last name."
"No last name? Everyone has a last name!"
"Not this dead body."
"Why would this person not have a last name?"
"It's not a person; it's a dead body. As for why it had no last name, I wish I knew myself." : scratches chin : "I suspect it may have something to do with the fact that - when it was a alive - it was a parrot. But of course that's not relevant now, since it is merely an indiscriminately dead body - neither human nor parrot nor anything else."
"Are you saying that we have been in trial for the last three months over a parrot????"
"It's not a parrot; it's a dead body."
"We assumed it was human! Why didn't you tell us!!"
"Nobody ever asked me what the dead body was before it was dead, (and even if they did, I have no way of telling them. After all, what's the difference between one dead body and another?). It's just a dead body; nothing more."

Silly? Yup.

As silly as the idea that a dead human is not still a human.
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Prolly Polly ?
 
DaveC426913 said:
As silly as the idea that a dead human is not still a human.
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So this is a human?

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The cremated ashes in this urn. This is a human?

A dead human body are human REMAINS, and his / her name was / used to be / formally known as ...........

They are both human REMAINS

The police senerio not worth a comment except to say not worth a comment

:)
 
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