What is time??

[Dywyddyr]

This is only true for Tralfamadorians AFAIK.

Oh noes!!
Someone's left the chronosynclastic infundibulum open. Again!

 

[river]

“ Originally Posted by Dywyddyr
Really? Then how do we manage to separate them all out into a consistent sequence?

If everything happens at the same time then I'm dead as I read this, because it's also 10,000,000 years in my "future". How am I managing to reply?

I did not read Elterish's comment in that way. While we are obviously limited in the order we perceive events, the fact that something several light years away happened in our past while we "see" it today, does not change the fact that when it happened there was also something happening "here", in our past which is no longer within our ability to perceive it.

agreed

inotherwords , at all moments ( duration , time , whatever you want to call it ) it is movement , as it is happening here on Earth , so does it happen in the whole of the Universe , at the same moment , with Earth

 

[Dywyddyr]

agreed

inotherwords , at all moments ( duration , time , whatever you want to call it ) it is movement , as it is happening here on Earth , so does it happen in the whole of the Universe , at the same moment , with Earth

What?

Time is not movement.

 

[OnlyMe]

What?

Time is not movement.

This is getting picky but, movement represents change and time is a measurement of change.

 

[Aqueous Id]

This is getting picky but, movement represents change and time is a measurement of change.

Any parameter can be a measure of change. A gradient represents something changing over space (not time) like a temperature gradient in the ocean as you dive.

 

[river]

“ Originally Posted by Dywyddyr
What?

Time is not movement

This is getting picky but, movement represents change and time is a measurement of change.

exactly

 

[Dywyddyr]

exactly

But your statement was incorrect.
It doesn't follow what Elterish claimed.
For example not all movement happens all at once.

 

[river]

Originally Posted by OnlyMe
This is getting picky but, movement represents change and time is a measurement of change. ”

exactly

But your statement was incorrect.
It doesn't follow what Elterish claimed.
For example not all movement happens all at once.

true

all movement couldn't happen the same moment , if this did happen

the Universe would never get beyond the state of energy and matter , manifest

since energy , as quick as it manifested , would become to its ultimate form at the same moment , matter only , the very end of energy

 

[Dywyddyr]

true

all movement couldn't happen the same moment , if this did happen

the Universe would never get beyond the state of energy and matter , manifest

since energy , as quick as it manifested , would become to its ultimate form at the same moment , matter only , the very end of energy

Your word salad is still tasty.
And you just disagreed with your own (earlier) post.
Well done.

 

[river]

Originally Posted by river
true

all movement couldn't happen the same moment , if this did happen

the Universe would never get beyond the state of energy and matter , manifest

since energy , as quick as it manifested , would become to its ultimate form at the same moment , matter only , the very end of energy

Your word salad is still tasty.
And you just disagreed with your own (earlier) post.
Well done.

my point is , is that , everything couldn't happen at the same , not because of time

but because every movement , every moment , is based on what the energy and matter , does and is capable of

time is the consequence , not the catalyst of the movement ( or the essence of movement )

 

[Dywyddyr]

my point is , is that , everything couldn't happen at the same , not because of time

but because every movement , every moment , is based on what the energy and matter , does and is capable of

How does that explain you contradicting your own post?

time is the consequence , not the catalyst of the movement ( or the essence of movement )

Unsupported claim.
Which has been refuted numerous times here on Sci.
And also at least partly contradicted by your own statement highlighted above.
I don't know what your native language is, but your "explanations" are somewhat sloppy.

 

[river]

“ Originally Posted by river
agreed

inotherwords , at all moments ( duration , time , whatever you want to call it ) it is movement , as it is happening here on Earth , so does it happen in the whole of the Universe , at the same moment , with Earth

is this Dywyddyr , the post I'm contradicting

 

[Dywyddyr]

Yes.

 

[hansda]

Time is not movement.

Time is movement of time .

 

[Pincho Paxton]

Time is movement of time .

Paradox


Time is in-between Cause and Effect. It is the Energy Abacus.

 

[Emil]

what is time??
:shrug:

I do not know. :shrug:
I perceive only the consequences of the existence of time.

 

[hansda]

Paradox

How/Why , time is paradox ?

Time is in-between Cause and Effect.

What causes time? What is the effect of time ?

It is the Energy Abacus.

What do you mean by 'energy abacus' ? How time is that ?

 

[origin]

Time is movement of time .

Movement is the movement of movement.

 

[hansda]

Movement is the movement of movement.

A mass needs force or energy for its movement ; but time moves by itself .

 

[Pincho Paxton]

A mass needs force or energy for its movement ; but time moves by itself .

You have to give time physics just like everything else.

The dipping bird machine is quite similar to time. The bird takes in water, lifts back from the flow, loses weight, and leans forwards again. If the water was electrons, it is creating quite a precise electron flow without the knowledge of mathematics.

Or a lava lamp.