What is the future for this people?

[jwyatt123]

I am little in knowledge and I do not want to come off as an expert,,

but I am an aspirant and I want to know how things are going in the world today, specifically in the U.S.

I want those understanding my question to answer my question not only with an economic mind and a business-like mind but also spiritually. I want you to consider the law of retribution.


Now, my question is...


How can a people make it in this upcoming world, when they have not immigrated to this country?

These people that I speak of have not immigrated to this country. They did not come here on the Nina, the Pinta or the Santa Maria. They were brought here in the holes of ships in 1555.

These people were robbed of their name, their language, their God, their own morals, their own folkways, their nationhood, and even their mind. They were made slaves and worked for 300 years for no pay.

These people have no land of their own, no economy of their own, they do not practice group economics, they have fought many wars for their oppressor but have not received justice under their oppressor.

These people, even unto this day, were systematically destroyed as a people. These people are called dead and even call themselves dead.

This is a sad people.

Tell me, what is the future for this people? Where is the U.S. "pushing" this people?

What does the U.S. think of a people that does not produce anything and, has no business or manufacturing?

Where will this people go in the coming future (2012 - 2015)? Will they soon become a permanent underclass?

Will the practicing of group economics help to uplift this people, under their sovereign nation?

 

[wlminex]

. . .who are 'these people'? . . . are we talking american indians? . . . blacks? . . . irish? . . .muslims? . . . or what?. We (human society) are a 'melting pot' of all ideologies . . . the most popular prevailing ideology usually governs our society(s). Also, if one "chooses" (or is forced) to move into a new societal environment, one must adapt to that new environment, or else be considered an outcast from that same society.

. . . by the way . . .I think you meant "holds" of ships . . . not "holes" . . otherwise even the Nina. Pinta, and Santa Maria would never have made the trip!

 

[cosmictraveler]

Can you be more specfic as to who your talking about so that I can better understand your questions, thanks.

 

[jwyatt123]

. . .who are 'these people'? . . . are we talking american indians? . . . blacks? . . . irish? . . .muslims? . . . or what?. We (human society) are a 'melting pot' of all ideologies . . . the most popular prevailing ideology usually governs our society(s).

This is not an ideology. This a reality that a people have not immigrated to this country.

Now think, sir, who are the only people who have not immigrated to this country and were brought here into this country?

Again it does not matter what kind of silly, high school talk of melting pot you talk of, it is the reality of a people (hint: called dead) who have no nationality or no group economy and are therefore in a state of death.

Not just some play thing. They are in a very real state of death. Economically, spiritually, morally, politically,...

 

[wlminex]

Now think, sir, who are the only people who have not immigrated to this country and were brought here into this country?



Quit "beating-around-the-bush"! . . . . that's the question that I and Cosmictraveler asked you to answer

 

[wlminex]

. . .follow-up to last . . . .so . . . I'd guess we are talking about "your" people . . .whoever they are!

 

[jwyatt123]

If the so-called african american does not have any nationality than you call him dead.

I want you too look at the state of the people that are called Negro (dead) and please answer my questions to the best of you ability.

 

[wlminex]

. . . .so . . . is our president (Obama) "dead", in your eyes . . . or Herman Cain? . . . or Dred Scott or Booker T. Washington ( . . . oh yes, I guess the latter two ARE dead!). You know . . .a lot of blacks, many of whom were forcibly introduced (e.g., via slavery, etc.) to our society, have done well and benefited from our 'society', as well as their offspring . . . by adapting to our societal mores.

 

[wlminex]

. . .follow-up . . .by the way . . .blacks living in our (US) society have a nationality . . .they are AMERICANS! . . . just like the rest of us!

 

[jwyatt123]

. . . .so . . . is our president (Obama) "dead", in your eyes . . . or Herman Cain? . . . or Dred Scott or Booker T. Washington ( . . . oh yes, I guess the latter two ARE dead!). You know . . .a lot of blacks, many of whom were forcibly introduced (e.g., via slavery, etc.) to our society, have done well and benefited from our 'society', as well as their offspring . . . by adapting to our societal mores.

Yes they have and I don't doubt that.

But under law we are not Americans. We are still slaves. Those who are recognized as Emancipated slaves have no freedom under law. They are still 3/5ths of a human being and are not citizens

Although they are very great individuals, our people are still dead.

Those persons do not belong to themselves they belong to their people (community) . If their people are dead, then they are dead.

Obama is not a descendant of emancipated slaves. Kenyan father. White American mother. Not slaves.

I speak of a people. not persons.

 

[wlminex]

. . . person + person = people!
. . . .also, I agree that (most) emancipated slaves are dead (emanciptaed ~ 150 yrs ago) . . . but their offspring are NOT! . . they (offspring) (most anyway) are citizens of our society.

 

[jwyatt123]

. . . person + person = people!

Yes they belong to a people but they are not the people

 

[wlminex]

. . . we are ALL, the people!

 

[jwyatt123]

When the forefathers of my people were first brought to this nation, they had a NATIONALITY and a NAME but in order to separate them from the achievements of their fathers, a name was given to them which had no connection whatsoever with the founders of civilization.

We were nick named "negroes" and now you think our condition has changed just because they nick-name us a different name, african american?

If this is not an insult to the illustrious history of a nation there can never be one given. Just as they have saddled on us the name "negro" they have also given us a religion that was made to enslave us and stop our progress.

 

[adoucette]

No one is forced to accept any religion.

You have a nationality (American) what NAME do you want to be called by?

 

[jwyatt123]

No one is forced to accept any religion.

You have a nationality (American) what NAME do you want to be called by?

Slaves were not robbed of a nation and given another nation,, no.

They were robbed of a nationality and left without nationality.



It is a sin for any group of people to violate the national constitutional laws of a free national government and cling to the names and the principles that delude to slavery.

The word Negro deludes in the Latin language to the word nigger; the same as the word colored deludes to anything that is painted, varnished and dyed. And every nation must bear a national descent name of their forefathers, because honoring thy fathers and mothers youru days will be lengthened upon this earth. These names have never been recognized by any true American citizens of this day. Through your free national name you are known and recognized by all nations of the earth that are recognized by said national government in which they live.

Under the name African American I have no free national name. I am not recognized as an American citizen.

All true American citizens are identified by national descent names to answer and apply to the free national constitution of the free National Republic of the United States of America

Without a free national name, without a descent flag of your forefathers, there is not a a national divine title of the government in which we live.

 

[Crunchy Cat]

How can inner city black Americans with slave roots make it in this upcoming world, when they have not immigrated to this country?

The easiest way would be to get a good education, abandon the inncr city culture, and adopt an American culture that has demonstrated success in the areas of life that you are most interested in (ex. the Silicon Valley nerd culture in California).

Tell me, what is the future for inner city black Americans with slave roots? Where is the U.S. "pushing" this people?

The mere fact that you asked the question shows part of the problem with the inner city culture. You are expecting the U.S. to push you someplace rather than taking control of your desires and life choices.

What does the U.S. think of inner city black Americans that do not produce anything and, has no business or manufacturing?

A much better question is what do you think about it?

Where will inner city black Americans go in the coming future (2012 - 2015)? Will they soon become a permanent underclass?

That's entirely up to you/them.

Will the practicing of group economics help to uplift this people, under their sovereign nation?

That is a bad question for so many reasons. The use if the term "soverign nation" implies you don't identify with America but rather with Africa. I hope you understand that a good part of Africa is a war torn shit hole. Having a separate economy won't likely help... economies are for completely autonomous societies... not cultures.

My first response has a suggested solution; however, it is by no means the only solution.

 

[gmilam]

The past cannot be changed. The future is unwritten.

 

[wlminex]

"Under the name African American I have no free national name. I am not recognized as an American citizen."

. . . . try dropping the African adjective affectation . . .and . . .VOILA! . . . . you are an American!!!

 

[wlminex]

jwyatt:

After reading all of this posting . . . it seems to me that you are perpetuating a racist point-of-view . . . . Advice: get with the society. . . change it, if you like . . . . and respect/enjoy your heiritage!!