What has to Happen to end Religion?

If God showed up on a regular basis then religion just might end.

What possible need would we have for religion if God put on a show, especially in these modern times?

Let's say God removes all weaponry from the face of the Earth then He casts a spell wherein everytime someone even thinks of bringing them back or of killing someone that person drops dead. A few idiots try it and the rest of us become convinced.

Next, during a regular schedule of visitations, He explains every mystery from Creation to Caramilk bars. We end world hunger, disease is vanquished, & the planet is saved.

It turns out that no religion got it right. Would one or many spring up between visits.

Your attitute towards god and religion appears to be extremely narrow.

jan.
 
I'm just saying the difference between building one now and building one back then is rationalism. It would not be tolerated that we build such a pointless structure even if it would be an impressive one.
We still build things and maybe for similar reasons (assuming money now = religious beleif) - just look at massively tall sky scrapers, I just road the MagLev in Shanghai (431 km/hr in 8 min), ever notice how the largest buildings in the CBD are Banks and Insurance companies? Same thing. The little people need to have faith that the system the runs their puny lives is going to take care of them. Now it's 500 floor mega towers - back then in was a big pyramid.

What do you think?
 
We still build things and maybe for similar reasons (assuming money now = religious beleif) - just look at massively tall sky scrapers, I just road the MagLev in Shanghai (431 km/hr in 8 min), ever notice how the largest buildings in the CBD are Banks and Insurance companies? Same thing. The little people need to have faith that the system the runs their puny lives is going to take care of them. Now it's 500 floor mega towers - back then in was a big pyramid.

What do you think?

Money is not a religious belief. I really wish people on this forum would stop calling things religion which are not.

Skyscrapers and office space in general play a huge part in the economy. It's a little different than building a glorified tomb.
 
Money is not a religious belief. I really wish people on this forum would stop calling things religion which are not.

Its not "religious belief" in the sense that the object/subject of their worship is god, but is religious in the way they pursue their goals. Ultimately, religion is a way of life, not necessarily belief. For example I could chant and glorify the name of Allah, but would not be accepted into a muslim society if I lived my life contrary to that expected of a muslim.
In the same way one would be rejected from a society of millionares if one was broke. The only difference between the two scenarios is the object of desire.
This is why some things are regarded as religious, despite not having a belief in god.

jan
 
:D Belief in God will never end in this world, Your dream is self delusion. Belief in God is not going away, it is being taken more and more seriously by more and more theists. All Praise The Ancient Of Days
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M*W: What theists aren't going away? Statistics, please!
 
Not for entertainment, but for development. Conflict is part of who we are as Humans.
If we had a world without anarchy and without conflict, it'd be too civilized and too lame. There is no potential for greatness there.

Conflict is part of religion, not part of who we are as humans.

I dont know

Exactly. Just another absurd and meaningless statement of yours.
 
Conflict can erupt between any difference. Religion, culture, nationality, etc

But, it doesn't erupt because it is part of who we are as humans.

However, religion is steeped in conflict. It shapes culture and nationality. For example:

Pakistan Penal Code:

"295-C. Use of derogatory remarks, etc., in respect of the Holy Prophet:
Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly, defiles the sacred name of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life, and shall also be liable to fine."

http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/1860/actXLVof1860.html
 
But, it doesn't erupt because it is part of who we are as humans.

However, religion is steeped in conflict. It shapes culture and nationality. For example:
And in that it shapes them, it's valuable. Also we Humans will always have differences.

Pakistan Penal Code:

"295-C. Use of derogatory remarks, etc., in respect of the Holy Prophet:
Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly, defiles the sacred name of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life, and shall also be liable to fine."

http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/1860/actXLVof1860.html

That's because Pakistan is a theocracy, pretty much.

In Italy I can mock the pope, and they can't do anything, even though Italy is like 90% Catholic
 
And in that it shapes them, it's valuable.

There has been no value religion has added to culture or nationality. Intolerance, bigotry, racism and heaps of conflict come to mind, though.

In Italy I can mock the pope, and they can't do anything, even though Italy is like 90% Catholic

"Can. 1369 A person who in a public show or speech, in published writing, or in other uses of the instruments of social communication utters blasphemy, gravely injures good morals, expresses insults, or excites hatred or contempt against religion or the Church is to be punished with a just penalty."

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P52.HTM
 
Religion does add value. For example, a typical Japanese leads their life and probably doens't spend to much time thinking about an afterlife, yet, one day their loved ones dies and suddenly they faced with a death. They turn to the local Buddhist Temple and speak with the Priest and at the funeral he goes through a ceremony and this restores their peace of mind and they pay for the service and life goes on.

IMO monotheism is inherently intolerant. How can monotheists accept someone else's Gods? They really can't be honest with their belief and also truly accept another persons different belief system if it involves other Gods. Also, if a monotheistic religion has a Last Messiah or Last Prophet they are not going to be able to accept any new ones.

But, I think polytheism and Buddhism are more than capable of adding value and culture and meaning to many people's lives and are able to meet the very real need many people have of overcoming the fear of non existence aka death and can do so without being inherently intolerant of other belief systems.

As long as there is death there will be a need for many people to adopt a superstitious explaination for what happens to "them" after they die, there will be religion for at least another 200 years I'd say..
 
When humans no longer age and die - are they still humans?

You are right though, probably even if there was no death some people will beleive in some superstitous stuff
 
If God showed up on a regular basis then religion just might end.

What possible need would we have for religion if God put on a show, especially in these modern times?

Let's say God removes all weaponry from the face of the Earth then He casts a spell wherein everytime someone even thinks of bringing them back or of killing someone that person drops dead. A few idiots try it and the rest of us become convinced.

Everyone would eventually drop dead. The human race would become extinct.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
What has to happen...people must perceive their own spiritual nature first hand.

Religion is by nature a culture of second hand experiences.
 
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