But don't those men turn to women who are easily manipulated, like high school girls? While still sick, it's not pedophilia.
What drives people to watch child porn?
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But don't those men turn to women who are easily manipulated, like high school girls? While still sick, it's not pedophilia.
Answer to the original question: one or more of the following:
1. A disturbed upbringing, leading to inappropriate sexual linking with the idea of innocence or vulnerability.
2. An inability to interact in an adult world, followed by a regression to a kind of childishness in an adult body.
3. Boredom and lack of empathy for the victims of crimes.
4. A desire for ever-increasing violence on television, in film etc., fed by fantasies that can develop due to a complete lack of life experience.
This is not an exhaustive list.
1. A disturbed upbringing, leading to inappropriate sexual linking with the idea of innocence or vulnerability.
2. An inability to interact in an adult world, followed by a regression to a kind of childishness in an adult body.
3. Boredom and lack of empathy for the victims of crimes.
4. A desire for ever-increasing violence on television, in film etc., fed by fantasies that can develop due to a complete lack of life experience.
This is not an exhaustive list.
Challenger78
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Sure, once you remove the fangs.
All of the reasons above are usually mental. In time, perhaps they can be treated. It's either that or lower the age of consent.
Or it's possibly just another drive being a human. I don't see it as being anything different than being straight or gay. Though there are some disturbing aspects to it such as exploiting people at an age where they are not fully aware of sexuality and such.
People as a mass are less intelligent and less compassionate than individuals are. There is no such thing as "correcting" people.
Challenger78
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I guess thats what Baron was trying to say in a roundabout way.
Again, I ask the question: What does this mean ?, that maybe we should look at it differently ?
Humans are an odd, strange animal, ain't they?
We tout freedoms and individual freedoms ...making great claims of the "rights" of people to freedoms of all kinds. We make laws by the gazillions protecting all those freedoms.
And yet, here we are discussing what to do when some people use those very freedoms to do evil things. So the first thing we try to do is ...yep, you got it, ....we seek to take away those freedoms!!
Geez, we're such a fucked up animal that it ain't even so funny anymore.
Baron Max
We tout freedoms and individual freedoms ...making great claims of the "rights" of people to freedoms of all kinds. We make laws by the gazillions protecting all those freedoms.
And yet, here we are discussing what to do when some people use those very freedoms to do evil things. So the first thing we try to do is ...yep, you got it, ....we seek to take away those freedoms!!
Geez, we're such a fucked up animal that it ain't even so funny anymore.
Baron Max
Did I miss something - paedophilia is now legal?
No, but it's just one of the many things that society has laws against ....thus effectively taking away some of those same freedoms that we tout and claim for ourselves.
You like some laws and are so willing to defend them, yet you also don't like some laws and want to see them revoked for the "freedom" of all ...right?
Hey, if you love laws so much, and are so willing for all to obey them, then ...wow, we could have a field day making things illegal, huh? How much freedom do you want to take away from others? Lots? A little bit?
Baron Max
Where you go wrong is when you say that morality supports freedoms of all kinds. It does not. It supports freedoms that are in accordance with morality.
Unlimited freedom of the individual to do as he pleases is not compatible with morality.
The best way to improve human behavior is to be a good example. Ever hear of theory of mind? When you apply the theory that someone else has a mind, it's easier to understand why they reject moralistic ideas. It is simply because moralizers usually come on as unhappy sots. They treat people horribly and then "expect" people to do things their way because of that. It's the wrong way. Those who comply out of fear don't believe and can't believe.
Doesn't that depend? I mean if they also find flat chested dwarves who look 8 attractive then it makes sense that it's just genetics of attraction that they can't help. Surely though if it's just the fact they are pre-pubescent children they like then that's most likely psychological?
Likewise if the 'child' is 13+, fully developed and can easily pass for being legal is their really a problem with them at all?
You are barking mad, James.
The "law" just likes this gray area where reasonable people can't see the harm and then they can screw with people who never meant or did any harm.
metaKron please get help
Challanger acording to the psycology i have studied on this james is correct especially his points 1+2. This explains why pediphiles who are atracted to adult women abuse MALE children without any sort of atraction to adult males.
is it a mental disease?
yes, its listed on the DMS IV (302.2)
Challanger acording to the psycology i have studied on this james is correct especially his points 1+2. This explains why pediphiles who are atracted to adult women abuse MALE children without any sort of atraction to adult males.
is it a mental disease?
yes, its listed on the DMS IV (302.2)
Challenger78
Valued Senior Member
So if its classified as a mental disease, why are we still putting people into jail for it ?
*shrugs*
why do we put people in jail for exposing themselves when the disorder which causes this is also listed on the DMS IV?
Why do we put sociopaths in jail when personality disorders are on the DMS?
So is adictions of all kinds yet we put drug adicts in jail
kleptomania is again on the DMS but thieves go to jail
I agree with you, the whole criminal justice system should be dismantled because it doesnt work, we should be treating people not jailing them
why do we put people in jail for exposing themselves when the disorder which causes this is also listed on the DMS IV?
Why do we put sociopaths in jail when personality disorders are on the DMS?
So is adictions of all kinds yet we put drug adicts in jail
kleptomania is again on the DMS but thieves go to jail
I agree with you, the whole criminal justice system should be dismantled because it doesnt work, we should be treating people not jailing them
Challenger78
Valued Senior Member
I'm not going that far, unfortunately.
Some people are a menace to society, who have been and are proud of being criminals.
Others, simply have no choice as to what they do, such as those who are addicted, those who are sociopaths. Jails are there often as a deterrent to the petty offences. But those that have disorders, should be kept seperate.
What I'm basically trying to say is that jails still have their place.
Some people are a menace to society, who have been and are proud of being criminals.
Others, simply have no choice as to what they do, such as those who are addicted, those who are sociopaths. Jails are there often as a deterrent to the petty offences. But those that have disorders, should be kept seperate.
What I'm basically trying to say is that jails still have their place.
Okay. You say the jail-system doesn't work. Then you say we should be "treating" them. So ...what's the "treatment"? And does it work?
If not, ...what then? Let them roam the streets?
Baron Max
I guess I should copy that comment for the next "Gay-Lesbian" freedom thread, huh, James? Gays want freedoms to act out their immoral sexuality, so as you've so clearly noted, we shouldn't allow that to happen. Right?
And, of course, it fits with hundreds of other such threads on human behavior, too.
Baron Max