I feel like trolling your thread like you do so many others Papaya!
LOL. I won't continue with the narration above because its a circular pointless and regressive argument. You know the equation is utter shit, is invalid and is not "actually" an equation, so let's move past this, obviously you know you havent proved anything. It's a hyperbole, it's baseless and the equation itself is proposterous and threads on suppositions. So let's move on....
Let me ask you this.
Everything we understand about science is based on a frame of reference. You take this away and what do you have? Well. Nothing besides the desire to learn or the lack of in most cases. These are the usual extremes. You admit you have no frame of reference so I suspect you are of the latter extreme on the note there is many athiests here who are intelligent open minded and even engage in philosophy, etc. You dont want to learn so you render every argument that deals with it null and insult the belief systems of others not accounting to the fact that subjective reality some have may become actuality after death, who knows, what do you know about the fabric of consciousness? Not enough to insult those who dont conform to the lack of belief, why do you insist on trying to make people feel a certain way? It's like a thiest. Every time I see a person making claims on organized religions I simply remind them of there bloody historical context there religion was founded upon.
So if we simplify this in a meaninful way - we can come to understand that if we do not have a frame of reference - we cannot move foward meaningfully. I believe there is a god as the frame of reference for consciousness. I can't understand the purpose behind having consciousness in a sterile universe except than I conclude that the universe itself is alive through consciousness and that there has to be more. I just believe the mind is so powerful that one day we will manafacture reality like we do with dreams.
If this is not the case and I'm becoming hyper critical consequence of some bias I have for you than I retract my statements and apologize to you in the case that you do not insult the religious passive agressively or direct.
Quantum physics essentially states that everything is deprived from thoughts - you are objective to the extent of witholding irrational contempt in lieu of having nothing to contrast or to argue with besides clever ad homs and by demonstrating sheer arrogance and fatheadedness in face of people yearning to learn.
What are the odds of god not existing
Well let's see you'll have to prove alot won't you - don't worry - i'll save you the oh so clever "equation" which illustrates the possibility (conviniently infinity will be a variable) so do the equation. By god I mean -
the first sense of matter that organized itself my theory as that it evolves on a cosmological scale and consciousness is some consequence of its evolution.
What is the point of your thread?
Is religion and god different? What is your definition of god? Don't worry you are most likely god, maybe everything is thats why we dont feel bad eating eachother
Maybe we all just know life and death is more or less a game that doesent matter. I suspect that if we all were independant of reality that consciousness wouldent have organized. Actually let me ask you this,
If consciousness and physical reality (and the laws that it conforms to) is exclusive than consider what happens when we dream. Surely we are still conscious and we manafacture a reality within our own by a simple mental process alone. It doesent adhere to the laws in this physical reality. Than we wake up. Does that make any scientific sense when you really think about it??
How about those who lucid dream and control there enviorments in dreams, etc.?
I'll be eager to hear that response as to why it exists in the first place. I suspect we are all one. That one is god. Universe, me, you, a blade of grass, and that perverted thought you have when you see a certain somebody, I think it's all god.
Let me ask you this!!!!
If reality was any different (If we knew god existed, if physical requirements were not in place for consciousness, all the usual arguments against) would life be meaningful in the way it is now??
Could you even imagine yourself as lets say a butterfly? Or a monkey? Do you think it would be as meaningful? I think it would to an extent. If you have no frame of reference surely death is something to be wanted. I mean, you fall asleep right??? Why wake up when you don't have to? Sounds sweet to me. I just dont think this is the case. I think we will resurface as this consciousness is all in the same fabric (unless your arrogant enough to think otherwise) and we don't know what we will resurface as! Hopefully we will be animated. This is what god is about. It's about will.
Isnt it perfectly balanced, can you think of how you would be otherwise?? If things were even a little different, suppose everybody always got what they want, wouldent it defeat the purpose of want and render the associated feelings null untill pain and happiness was synomonus?
