Thoreau
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Oh... nevermind then. You're right, I'm not able to grasp the entirety of what your god is supposed to be. Before I'd assumed you just meant "life".
Its ok.
Oh... nevermind then. You're right, I'm not able to grasp the entirety of what your god is supposed to be. Before I'd assumed you just meant "life".
I already responded to that, post #180, maybe you should resign
I never said a lack of evidence for abiogenesis was evidence of design, I said atheists don't care if there's no evidence for it
When did I do that?
Right, so basically your entire post addressed no arguments at all...I never said a lack of evidence for abiogenesis was evidence of design, I said atheists don't care if there's no evidence for it , design is ofcourse a viable explanation though
Nice try though, amateur
Personal experience canot be used as a basis for the existence of god. It can be a basis for belief but that is not the same thing as knowledge.
If a mentally ill patient believes that he is Napoleon , do we believe him ? He certainly believes it. Does believing that the earth is flat make it so ? Of course not.
We can believe anything but to know something means that we can support our belief with objectively verifiable evidence. I am not aware of any argument which supports a belief in god, which is not to doubt the sincerity of those who do hold such beliefs. I just think they are mistaken.
Yeah, you're wrong, wrong wrong wrongOk something I want to explain is the burden of proof. Something like an afterlife is a claim, a hypothesis if you will, until proven true. The arguement "You can't prove there is an afterlife, but you also can't prove there isn't" is flawed. The burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim. If I were to tell you santa claus was living on some remote planet billions of miles away, you would assume it were false until I proved otherwise. Same logic applies to any claim. If you're going to tell me there is an afterlife I am going to want some hard evidence to support it.
So what do you guys think? Am I wrong here?
Yeah, you're wrong, wrong wrong wrong
You're using an agrument from ignorance
why dont you tell him why hes wrong instead of just responding with equal "ignorance"
Yes I know to atheists personal experiences are not evidence of God, and atheists cannot give any example of what can be evidence of God besides "God coming down one day" or "reviving an amputee's leg"
All praise the atheistic faith
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M*W: Why is it that atheists lack understanding, in your opinion, when the brainwashed among us seem to know it all?
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M*W: Buh bye.
ROFL...argument from ignorance...Yours is thew silliest post I have read so far. Try tyhinking, however painful you find it.
If you claim there is a god and I disagree , it is up to you to prove your point. not my job to disprove it.
Hmm...what does fairies have to do with this? Oh, I know nothing, it's just another typical atheistic analogy used to preserve the atheistic faith...Myles said:If I claim I have fairies at the bottom of my garden and you cannot see them you are entitled to ask me to provide evidence. You cannot be expected to prove that they do not exist. If you try, I can counter what you say with all sorts of nonsense. I can say, the fairies do not wish to be seen by you, you are not worthy, they suspect a hostile presence, first you must believe in them, you must pray to them for faith . Once you have faith you will not need to see them because you will know they are there, so why trouble them by asking them to manifest for a mere mortal like you. Sound familiar ? It's the stuff of which religion is made
I do not dispute your rightto believe what you want to but don't ask me to join the club unless you can convince me that you have something to offer by way of evidence,
My question for debate then becomes – is there any basis where we could establish that such a subjective process without any form of individual or independent verification could in fact offer a truth? While it seems on the surface that this could be easily and summarily dismissed by non-believers it is however the crux of the theist position and deserves some deeper attention if there can be any.
ROFL...argument from ignorance...
Something isn't false until proven true
but the existence of fairies has absolutely nothing to do with the existence of God
Hey guys I can't respond, my posts will either be deleted or removed or I'll get banned or something
Yes I know to atheists personal experiences are not evidence of God, and atheists cannot give any example of what can be evidence of God besides "God coming down one day" or "reviving an amputee's leg"
All praise the atheistic faith
argument from ignorance:
"There's no evidence God exists, so God doesn't exist"
"You can't prove God exists, so God cannot exist"
"Lack of evidence that God exists indicates that the existence of God is unlikely"
"Only what the current evidence at the present time indicates is the truth"
How do atheists account for these fallacies?