Virgins anyone???

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The Islamic Paradise or Jannat which was invented by Mohammed to bribe the Arabs into committing hedious crimes by promising them materialistic things which they couldn't obtain in the harsh desert. The paradise contains six important items: beautiful virgins, young boys, water, wine, fruits and wealth.

Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed is clearly expressing his "high" opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for the fresher and more pleasurable sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands deflower those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys.

Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.

Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.

Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)

Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...

Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "

Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..

Oh wait it gets better....

In the Hadiths, Mohammed goes one step further and expands the promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness.

Quote from Hadiths

Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them."

Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

Alot of famous poets in Arabia glorified homosexuality.

Mohammed's promise of an Islamic Paradise that glittered with the fulfillment of all sorts of wordly desires and sense enjoyment was nothing but a sinister ploy to recruit those who had no hope or expectation of ever getting these things in their present lives. Knowing that they are assured of such a Paradise simply because they follow Islam, Muslims can go around committing murder, rape plunder and loot. It is the picture of this paradise that has motivated Muslims over the centuries to cut down people of other religions, to desecrate their places of worship and mistreat them in the name of Allah. Even after death, the spritually deprived Prophet of Islam could not see beyond wine, women and food, leave alone exploring spiritual heights of the soul.
 
The word is huri and does not mean virgins. The word 72 virgins does not occur anywhere in the Quran, it is based on the writings of a Muslim scholar, Tirmidhi, who lived from 824-892; for perspective Mohammed died in 632.

According to classical Arabic usage in the time when the Qur'an was recited by Muhammad, Hur'in is made of two words Hur and In. The word 'Hur' is the plural of both Ahwar (Masculine) and Hawra (Feminine) which literally translates into persons distinguished by Hawar, signifying "intense whiteness of the eyeballs and lustrous black of the pupils." (ref: Qamus ), hence 'the purity' (ref: Tafsir al'Tabari, and Tafsir al-Razi in 3:52). And as for the phrase, "In it is the plural of both 'Ayan' (Masculine) and 'Ainao' (Feminine)",[25] it was used to refer to the beautiful eyes of the wild-cow whose eyes are blond. In general, this word implies 'most beautiful eye' irrespective of the person's gender. Thus, the most appropriate English endering of the compound word Hur'In will be: "Companions pure, most beautiful of eye."[26] and it is applicable to both male and female

Please do not post false information as fact.
 
The word is huri and does not mean virgins. The word 72 virgins does not occur anywhere in the Quran, it is based on the writings of a Muslim scholar, Tirmidhi, who lived from 824-892; for perspective Mohammed died in 632.



Please do not post false information as fact.
Oh so now you got your own interpretations!
Don't feel bad, I'm sure there is at least one decent man waiting in paradise for you!
 
Is that your response?

Personal comments?

What is the reference for your interpretations? Including the selective ones of the Qur'an?
 
Is that your response?

Personal comments?

What is the reference for your interpretations? Including the selective ones of the Qur'an?
That was in response to all moslem woman..not just you!
well you know pretty well how many ways the Quran can be interpreted!...and don't start about the hadiths..they not that credible!
 
That was in response to all moslem woman..not just you!
well you know pretty well how many ways the Quran can be interpreted!...and don't start about the hadiths..they not that credible!

I'm still waiting for the references you used.
 
I should really get around to learning Arabic. It would make the verses so much easier to understand.
 
I'm still waiting for the references you used.
They are all in your Quran..but wait! They don't all seem that way. So what 's the point, you just gonna twist em up and say they mean something else!
You like juggling sura's don't you, just so they justify what you want them to mean!...enough discussion I said what I said!
 
They are all in your Quran..but wait! They don't all seem that way. So what 's the point, you just gonna twist em up and say they mean something else!
You like juggling sura's don't you, just so they justify what you want them to mean!...enough discussion I said what I said!

Still waiting for the source of your translations and interpretations.
 
I understand why Muhammad (pbuh) would want to appeal to men, especially men of military age since Islam is a militaristic expansionist religion.

But really SAM you Muslim women get the short end of the stick, both now and in the hereafter. Too bad Muhammad (pbuh) wasn't visionary enough to see the utility in suicide bomber women 1400 years later, perhaps you'd have a better deal.

Since you know more about the "72", just how was that calculated anyway? Is that the number of woman a Muslim man can deflower, even after eternity?

Does all this seem to you what a just and perfect god would come up with?
 
I understand why Muhammad (pbuh) would want to appeal to men, especially men of military age since Islam is a militaristic expansionist religion.

But really SAM you Muslim women get the short end of the stick, both now and in the hereafter. Too bad Muhammad (pbuh) wasn't visionary enough to see the utility in suicide bomber women 1400 years later, perhaps you'd have a better deal.

Since you know more about the "72", just how was that calculated anyway? Is that the number of woman a Muslim man can deflower, even after eternity?

Does all this seem to you what a just and perfect god would come up with?

Can you read?
 
Already told you:bugeye: Quran!

Who wrote those translations? I am interested in questioning him/her the Arabic roots and how he/she arrived at those meanings.

esp this

Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed is clearly expressing his "high" opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for the fresher and more pleasurable sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands deflower those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys.

Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.
 
Who wrote those translations? I am interested in questioning him/her the Arabic roots and how he/she arrived at those meanings.
Thats my translation of events that I hypothesized to be the most obvious motivation of his followers!, I'm sure many would agree when you fit that it into the reasons for his murderous campaigns.
It's all detective work!,..backtracking history understanding the mindset of people in that sort of geo-political situation it's really quite easy to see why!
 
Thats my translation of events that I hypothesized to be the most obvious motivation of his followers!, I'm sure many would agree when you fit that it into the reasons for his murderous campaigns.
It's all detective work!,..backtracking history understanding the mindset of people in that sort of geo-political situation it's really quite easy to see why!

Ah so it is your personal translation of supposed sodomite Arabs indulging in orgies. And since you do not even know the meaning of hurin, why should your sexual fantasies be accepted by other people as having any basis?
 
Ah so it is your personal translation of supposed sodomite Arabs indulging in orgies. And since you do not even know the meaning of hurin, why should your sexual fantasies be accepted by other people as having any basis?
Yes my translation of the series of events based on the verses mentioned in the Quran!
And I do not recall mentioning acceptance of any of my sexual fantasies!. Please stop mis quoting and twisting my posts!
 
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