I don't care if the general public likes stealing - it's still immoral.
No Michael, you've already said that taxes are ok, now you're just quibbling about the manner in which they are collected.
We understand your point Michael, you want more REGRESSIVE taxes so you can stick it to the people less able to pay.
Lastly, I'm for structural change that will actually make things fairer.
No Michael, your "structural change" of doing away with the major PROGRESSIVE portion of our tax system, the income tax and instead getting the revenue for our roads, police, schools, military, scientific and regulatory needs via Sales, Excise and Use taxes, is highly Regressive.
Most people think that's less fair, since those who have plenty extra income don't pay a high percent of their income in that tax structure, so Michael, it's only "fair" if you think getting roughly the same percent from the Rich as you do the Poor is fair.
You OTOH like the current system.
Yes, I like the fairness inherent in a Progressive tax system
Well, you could charge 100% income tax from all Americans who make over 20K a year and it will do nothing to put even the tiniest dent in the debt your wonderful Federal Reserve has racked up.
Different issue, and one no one is suggesting.
Speaking of which: What do you think of that? Suppose income tax was 90% for anything over $20K? Do you think that's moral? How do you decide what is and is not moral? If the majority voted for it - then I suppose you'd what? Think it's suddenly moral? What if you also had to share your house with strangers? We'll say the drunk you didn't pay who attempted to clean your windows. Say the entire society decided to randomly assign the 'poorer' with the 'richer'. Would you feel violated in anyway being FORCED to give up almost ALL of your income and being FORCED to live with a drunk transient?
And once again, you always have to go to the logical fallacy of Reductio ad absurdum, to try to make your point, but it's called a "logical fallacy" for a reason Michael.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
So no Michael, you haven't won the debate.
You've yet to make a convincing case that, regardless of the tax rate, we should abandon our Progressive system in favor of a much more Regressive system like you propose.
What is most telling is in your replies you have consistantly ignored this key issue.