The rotation is dependent on which hemisphere of the Earth that you reside on.
And of course at the Equator, and 5 degrees either side of it, no such turning force is possible.
They are scientific facts Victor.
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The rotation is dependent on which hemisphere of the Earth that you reside on.
And of course at the Equator, and 5 degrees either side of it, no such turning force is possible.
They are scientific facts Victor.
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victorespinoza
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I don't believe in scientists. They tell you that will keep you calm.
You might want to rethink the authority with which you state that paddoboy as it's somewhat of a wive's tale. While it is true that Coriolis force affects large masses of air it does not affect small bodies of water such as those found in a draining bath tub and such:
Does water go down the drain counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere?
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It all depends upon how the water was introduced and the geometric structure of the drain.
One can find both counterclockwise and clockwise flowing drains in both hemispheres. Some people would like you to believe that the Coriolis force affects the flow of water down the drain in sinks, bathtubs, or toilet bowls. Don’t believe them! The Coriolis force is simply too weak to affect such small bodies of water.
In his work “Sur les equations du movements relative des systems des corps” (1835) the French engineer Gaspard Gustav de Coriolis (1792-1843) first described this force. The Coriolis force is caused by the earth’s rotation. It responsible for air being pulled to the right (counterclockwise) in the Northern Hemisphere and to the left (clockwise) in the Southern Hemisphere.
The Coriolis Effect is the observed curved path of moving objects relative to the surface of the Earth. Hurricanes are good visual examples. Hurricane air flow (winds) moves counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere. This is due to the rotation of the Earth. The Coriolis force assists in setting the circulation of a hurricane into motion by producing a rightward (clockwise) deflection that sets up a cyclonic (counterclockwise) circulation around the hurricane low pressure. (For a more in depth discussion on hurricanes see NASA’s Hurricanes: Greatest Storm on Earth.)
What happens at the equator? The Coriolis force is too weak to operate on the moving air at the equator. This means that weather phenomena such as hurricanes are not observed at the equator, although they have been observed at 5 degrees above the equator. In fact, the Coriolis force pulls hurricanes away from the equator.
For a more detailed explanation of the Coriolis Force see Science World, http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/CoriolisForce.html
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It all depends upon how the water was introduced and the geometric structure of the drain.
One can find both counterclockwise and clockwise flowing drains in both hemispheres. Some people would like you to believe that the Coriolis force affects the flow of water down the drain in sinks, bathtubs, or toilet bowls. Don’t believe them! The Coriolis force is simply too weak to affect such small bodies of water.
In his work “Sur les equations du movements relative des systems des corps” (1835) the French engineer Gaspard Gustav de Coriolis (1792-1843) first described this force. The Coriolis force is caused by the earth’s rotation. It responsible for air being pulled to the right (counterclockwise) in the Northern Hemisphere and to the left (clockwise) in the Southern Hemisphere.
The Coriolis Effect is the observed curved path of moving objects relative to the surface of the Earth. Hurricanes are good visual examples. Hurricane air flow (winds) moves counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere. This is due to the rotation of the Earth. The Coriolis force assists in setting the circulation of a hurricane into motion by producing a rightward (clockwise) deflection that sets up a cyclonic (counterclockwise) circulation around the hurricane low pressure. (For a more in depth discussion on hurricanes see NASA’s Hurricanes: Greatest Storm on Earth.)
What happens at the equator? The Coriolis force is too weak to operate on the moving air at the equator. This means that weather phenomena such as hurricanes are not observed at the equator, although they have been observed at 5 degrees above the equator. In fact, the Coriolis force pulls hurricanes away from the equator.
For a more detailed explanation of the Coriolis Force see Science World, http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/CoriolisForce.html
http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/coriolis.html - that was the first one handy, you can also find the reference in many other places.
What about the people that don't believe in you Victor? Please prove that you exist.
I was speaking of hurricanes and such Randwolf as that was the inference by Victor in an earlier post.
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victorespinoza
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I'm speaking of what is observed Victor.
But Victor, I always thought you were a scientist, no? Maybe the greatest Veegtron scientist ever. the Veegtron is science, right Victor?
Scientists say pure lies.
I hope you are wrong about that.
You had a good President.
In England we are ruled by greedy pigs.
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victorespinoza
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Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías was a liberator.
And HERE we have it folks - Victor doesn't believe in Scientists... he also doesn't believe in "proof" or the "scientific method" either.
Proof? Who needs proof when you have wild theories and fantasies of black holes everywhere? Who needs evidence when you can make shit up as you please?
Victor, people like you are part of the problem, not the solution. Stop deluding yourself and get educated.
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I only say the results of an analysis done with logic. The logic is an eye that sees the impossible to see with the eyes.
No, it isn't. You are observing ONLY on the macroscopic scale... if that is all there is, then explain to me bacteria, viruses, and other pathogens. Explain to me radiation and thermal transfer and photons of light.
You are MISSING the other 90% or more that you cannot see, either because it is too small for the naked eye, too far away, or outside the infinitesimally small range of radiation that the eye can perceive.
Seriously, stop calling your "analysis" logic... it isn't logic. It is a total absence of logic, thrown into the face of known fact and a well established method for proposing and testing hypothesis.
Victor, please, for the love of sanity, stop this. You can't simply say "all scientists lie" and cast away everything they have ever said... because by that logic, you yourself are a liar. Even if your method is terrible and awful, YOU, yourself, are still a scientist, in so much as you are attempting to find solutions to unknowns.
Stop fighting this pool of knowledge you could be pulling from and USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!
You are MISSING the other 90% or more that you cannot see, either because it is too small for the naked eye, too far away, or outside the infinitesimally small range of radiation that the eye can perceive.
Seriously, stop calling your "analysis" logic... it isn't logic. It is a total absence of logic, thrown into the face of known fact and a well established method for proposing and testing hypothesis.
Victor, please, for the love of sanity, stop this. You can't simply say "all scientists lie" and cast away everything they have ever said... because by that logic, you yourself are a liar. Even if your method is terrible and awful, YOU, yourself, are still a scientist, in so much as you are attempting to find solutions to unknowns.
Stop fighting this pool of knowledge you could be pulling from and USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!
This is the pseudoscience section you know.
It's you people touting real science that shouldn't be on here.
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victorespinoza
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I understand...
They mean to not publish my thoughts, so what, publish what others think.
I refuse.
Creativity is nice, think and study for yourself. Would you like to stop thinking?
Creativity is nice, yes. However, there is a time and place. What you are missing is temper; temper your ideas with logic and sound theory. Take a hypothesis, test it against what is already known.
People didn't publish your thoughts... did you ever stop and consider why? You are asking someone to publish an untested, untried work... you are asking them to put THEIR credentials on the line for YOUR word.
In order for them to do that, you had best have some damn good proof about it.
Does that make sense? Victor, I beg of you - you have a talent for looking at things a unique way... that's well and good. Now, you need to take that talent and shape it. TEST your theories against what we know; yes, what we know is incomplete and ever changing, but that's science. That's how it works. If you test an unknown against an unknown... well, let me put it this way:
You have several unknown values, A, B, C and X, Y, Z.
You know A = 1, B = 2, and C = 3.
A+B=C and X+Y=Z.
You know A+Y=C and that X+B=C.
How can you solve for the value of Z?
Logically speaking, you would go 1+Y=3 and X+2=3, so you would get Y=2 and X =1. Thus, We know that Z = 1+2, so Z=3.
However, you are trying to skip a few steps, and go straight to X+Y=Z before we know the values of X and Y. How can you solve a series of three unknowns at once?
You can't... you can take your best guesses and plug numbers in that work, but you have no way of knowing for sure if they are the right numbers.
Does that make sense Victor?
People didn't publish your thoughts... did you ever stop and consider why? You are asking someone to publish an untested, untried work... you are asking them to put THEIR credentials on the line for YOUR word.
In order for them to do that, you had best have some damn good proof about it.
Does that make sense? Victor, I beg of you - you have a talent for looking at things a unique way... that's well and good. Now, you need to take that talent and shape it. TEST your theories against what we know; yes, what we know is incomplete and ever changing, but that's science. That's how it works. If you test an unknown against an unknown... well, let me put it this way:
You have several unknown values, A, B, C and X, Y, Z.
You know A = 1, B = 2, and C = 3.
A+B=C and X+Y=Z.
You know A+Y=C and that X+B=C.
How can you solve for the value of Z?
Logically speaking, you would go 1+Y=3 and X+2=3, so you would get Y=2 and X =1. Thus, We know that Z = 1+2, so Z=3.
However, you are trying to skip a few steps, and go straight to X+Y=Z before we know the values of X and Y. How can you solve a series of three unknowns at once?
You can't... you can take your best guesses and plug numbers in that work, but you have no way of knowing for sure if they are the right numbers.
Does that make sense Victor?
Four legs good, two legs bad. (Except for Chickens)
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victorespinoza
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I think that all this is the result of a logical thinking.
Numbers,
Lyrics,
and tests.
Then, it looks like you're done, Victor. That was the last nail in the coffin, so to speak.
Then show the tests. Let others pick them apart and include their knowledge. Learn from mistakes, do not keep repeating them.
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