Any way I'm getting bored of the discussion because it doesn't lead any where. It's obvious that the advocates of the Thiaoouba faith are completely commited to it, and argueing against it with them it is just as fruitfull as trying to tell a rabid fundamentalist Christian/Islamist that God doesn't exist (an oppinion which I do not hold).
Telling people what they should and should not believe is for me highly uninteresting. I say let people believe whatever they want.
The problem I have is when people try to legislate morality and tell other people (me) what I ought to believe or do. Effectively that is what the message of the Thaori seems to be, you ought not take drugs, you ought not kill, you ought not worship money, you ought not go to dance at night clubs etc...
Aditionaly 'they' ask us to accept these conditions without evidence as to why (or with the book as the only evidence). And when we do not the advocates of the faith will tell us that we don't need evidence to KNOW it the book and message is enough (hmm, familiar. The Bible come to mind?).
Ok so please tell us why we ought to accept it on faith alone? You claim to question, you claim to THINK. Well is it ok if I exercise my freedom of choice and CHOOSE to question YOU, and subsequently not being content with the answere choose to not think about this 'message' any more and think about more important things such as developing spiritualy*.
*I use the term very specificaly to mean gaining insight about the nature of our own being.
"Know your self and you shall know the All" - Saying of Jesus according to the Gospel of Thomas, from The Nag Hammadi Library.
Telling people what they should and should not believe is for me highly uninteresting. I say let people believe whatever they want.
The problem I have is when people try to legislate morality and tell other people (me) what I ought to believe or do. Effectively that is what the message of the Thaori seems to be, you ought not take drugs, you ought not kill, you ought not worship money, you ought not go to dance at night clubs etc...
Aditionaly 'they' ask us to accept these conditions without evidence as to why (or with the book as the only evidence). And when we do not the advocates of the faith will tell us that we don't need evidence to KNOW it the book and message is enough (hmm, familiar. The Bible come to mind?).
Ok so please tell us why we ought to accept it on faith alone? You claim to question, you claim to THINK. Well is it ok if I exercise my freedom of choice and CHOOSE to question YOU, and subsequently not being content with the answere choose to not think about this 'message' any more and think about more important things such as developing spiritualy*.
*I use the term very specificaly to mean gaining insight about the nature of our own being.
"Know your self and you shall know the All" - Saying of Jesus according to the Gospel of Thomas, from The Nag Hammadi Library.