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The problem is not that some media supported Trump, but which type of media. His power base were not the classical mass media, but, instead, the internet, around Breitbart.
He won the election based on the massive supporting media coverage he received from CNN, Fox, ABC, and NBC; he built that coverage from his popular and media-promoted mass audience reality TV show, the clever manipulations of internet pros like Steve Bannon, and a lifetime's connections and skills built by soliciting and receiving massive amounts of personal publicity from the mainstream media.
At the same time, the classical mass media are mainly controlled by the Democrats.
That's not true - (you are falling for the American wingnut propaganda feed again - that's one of their favorites).

(it's very silly, actually - look at your link quote: the guy seems to think the newsroom employees run the media corporations they work for, he clearly doesn't know who the "independents" are in the US these days or what happened to the educated or moderate Republicans, and he talks about Democrats as if they weren't conservative and rightwing media as if it were not mainstream - all nonsense)

and if it were true it would make no difference whatsoever in the historical record of the massive support Trump received from the mass media during his campaign. What happened happened - you can't make it not have happened by posting reasons for it not happening.

Look: when CNN is broadcasting a half hour of dead air - a static picture of of an empty podium in a hall in North Dakota - because it might soon feature a speech by Trump which they are then - after he deigns to appear - going to carry live and in full on prime time airwaves nationwide,

at the exact same time Bernie Sanders is making a critical speech in an upcoming primary in swing State SE US, has to pay cash for all his air time and is desperate for media attention, and will be lucky if fifteen seconds of his speech makes the news anywhere outside of the city he is in at the moment,

that's called media support for Donald Trump. No other candidate received anything like that level of support.

Regardless of what the camera crew thought of Trump, they gave him all the air time he wanted and begged him to want more. And that's how he won - by massive mainstream media support.

Because that audience was his entire political constituency. Trump had no political base except through mass media coverage. He had no other campaign.
 
When your mojo goin' too slow,
Kick back, relax, let it go,
If you don't know where it's gonna blow
Don't need to go with the flow.
I mean it must be high or low.
 
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One of the backstage operations of the Trump Presidency is its weakening of Federal oversight and regulatory agencies in various ways - by hiring dozens of political flacks and hacks and incompetents as "interim" management for agencies whose top jobs are still vacant and without immediate prospect of being filled, for example.

And one of the looming possibilities for real mischief is the opportunity Trumpcare affords to bash, weaken, discredit, and possibly reduce to non-interference in Republican plans, the Congressional Budget Office.

That's almost certainly a higher priority for Bannon than any health care proposal.
 
Trump's second Muslim ban has been trumped by the Constitution once again. Trump is being schooled in government 101 the hard way. He's learning he is not as powerful as he thinks he is.
 
Now he'll fly over to some red state and lick his wounds before his most fanatical fans. Oh look. He's there already!

http://patch.com/tennessee/nashville/watch-live-stream-president-donald-trumps-nashville-rally
Aside from the bile is the real thinking behind this attempt at a Muslim ban really to make Christianity a state religion in the long/medium term and prevent the Muslim population increasing to a point where this becomes unfeasible?

Do they really believe that Islam and Christianity cannot co exist and are preparing the ground for mass expulsions or denial of permission to practice particular religions ?

Back to the Soviet era in that regard?

Will Trump now try to punish/intimidate/ purge the judiciary?

Did OSB win in this regard and has victimhood been foisted upon the Muslim populations by a pincer movement of OSB's extremism allied to a mirror reaction that seems to have taken hold in the States and elsewhere?
 
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Trump's second Muslim ban has been trumped by the Constitution once again. Trump is being schooled in government 101 the hard way. He's learning he is not as powerful as he thinks he is.

This is nothing but a Democrat ploy because there are being sore losers. The President has the Constitutional authority to restrict immigration if he feels this impact national security. President Carter had an Iranian travel ban in the late 1970's. The Democrats did not complain about that since one of their own did this.

The bottom line is, the Democrats have no real power, so all they can do is interfere and delay, using fake news arguments via their propaganda wing. Their world is changing and Trump is setting the democrat agenda back decades. The hope of a world government is gone. They are hoping to slow Trump down, but he is doing so many things, they can only watch their world collapses. This is leading to panic and increasing delusions and illusions.


Here comes the anti-science crowd with pitchforks in hand.


I agree with this, because there is a better way to do this. The status quo is very inefficient and wasteful. How long have they been working on cancer? The main problem is the overuse of statistical studies. If you had a rational theory, such as Einstein's relativity, one bad data point is enough to require the theory be revised. So far no such data has been found. With statistical studies, half your data can be bad, and the theory will be allowed to stand. This is a watered down standard of science, which is wasteful.

To put this into perspective, say I came up with a logical theory of weather, where half my data does not correlate. The theory would be called wrong and I would be considered dumb for insisting on this. If I did the same things with statistics, now I can get published. This is shakedown will increase the standard, since less means more for sure things, which are heavily favored by rational arguments.

In a statistical studies, one can find that coffee is good for you based on one set of data. Another study can find the opposite. If I did a logical study and claimed that coffee can be both good and bad for you, depending on the day, I would be called a moron. But with statistical science this is means two published studies. We have too much science that would be called, moron science, in a rational world of science. We need to raise the bar by limiting resources to only the best; rational arguments will finally win.

Aside from the bile is the real thinking behind this attempt at a Muslim ban really to make Christianity a state religion in the long/medium term and prevent the Muslim population increasing to a point where this becomes unfeasible?

Do they really believe that Islam and Christianity cannot co exist and are preparing the ground for mass expulsions or denial of permission to practice particular religions ?

Back to the Soviet era in that regard?

Will Trump now try to punish/intimidate/ purge the judiciary?

Did OSB win in this regard and has victimhood been foisted upon the Muslim populations by a pincer movement of OSB's extremism allied to a mirror reaction that seems to have taken hold in the States and elsewhere?

It is not a Muslim ban, Muslims can still come from any Muslim countries, who can screen travel to the USA. Places like Libya and Syria are in chaos and can't control travel. Once again your arguments are all about distraction, using the con artist skills that are the basis for liberal policies.

The travel ban will also impact women from Syria, children from Syria, gays from Syria, short people from Syria, obese people from Syria, cross dressing people from Syria, people with handicaps from Syria, etc. Why is this not a female ban since most countries have more women than men? It is all about lawyer tricks, with freedom of religion a possible tactic. Religion is only important to liberals if it can be used a weapon. Liberals never care about religious freedom, useless they can use it like a prop or weapon. The liberal base is so early fooled by dual standards.

The Democrats are dinosaurs about to go extinct. They are fighting the dying of the light. But one can smell the death fart.
 
It is not a Muslim ban, Muslims can still come from any Muslim countries, who can screen travel to the USA. Places like Libya and Syria are in chaos and can't control travel. Once again your arguments are all about distraction, using the con artist skills that are the basis for liberal policies.

The travel ban will also impact women from Syria, children from Syria, gays from Syria, short people from Syria, obese people from Syria, cross dressing people from Syria, people with handicaps from Syria, etc. Why is this not a female ban since most countries have more women than men? It is all about lawyer tricks, with freedom of religion a possible tactic. Religion is only important to liberals if it can be used a weapon. Liberals never care about religious freedom, useless they can use it like a prop or weapon. The liberal base is so early fooled by dual standards.

The Democrats are dinosaurs about to go extinct. They are fighting the dying of the light. But one can smell the death fart.
I said "attempt at a Muslim ban"

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-trumps-call-to-ban-muslim-immigrants/419298/

In my opinion he has played to the base who like this rhetoric

“total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”

We all remember this and apparently so do the judiciary as well as Guiliani's input

It notes statements made by Mr Trump such as a 2015 press release calling for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States", and his adviser Rudolph Guiliani, who said in a television interview in January: "When [Mr Trump] first announced it, he said, 'Muslim ban'. He called me up. He said: 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39287656

Sure Muslims can and should be screened like anyone else . I hope for the sake of the USA that they are being effectively screened as we speak.

Creating bogeymen may well ensure that that screening becomes much harder. It is not my country and I may not have to directly suffer the consequences of such "bull in a china shop " measures.
 
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This is nothing but a Democrat ploy because there are being sore losers. The President has the Constitutional authority to restrict immigration if he feels this impact national security.
Right.. Constitution, discrimination against people of a certain religion aside and whatnot..

Why is he banning people from countries that have not attacked the US?

President Carter had an Iranian travel ban in the late 1970's. The Democrats did not complain about that since one of their own did this.
Have you actually ever read about the Iranian travel ban at that time?

It was not against the whole country, or religion. It was against Iranian students, while Iranian students held Americans hostage in Iran. When the travel ban was broadened, it was in compliance with and part of the sanctions that the US was placing in Iran, due to the hostage crisis.

Do you understand the difference between that and what Trump is trying to do?

The bottom line is, the Democrats have no real power, so all they can do is interfere and delay, using fake news arguments via their propaganda wing.
And yet, Trump cannot get his travel ban to stick and even his own party is turning against him for his false and slanderous accusations against the previous President, not to mention his batshit crazy policies and healthcare plan...

I mean, at this rate, the Democrats don't have to do anything, because it is Trump who's taking his whole administration and party down. The Democrats may not hold the balance of power in Congress, they don't need to. Trump's policies are so unpopular, that they only need to sit back and watch it all crumble around him. And it is.

Their world is changing and Trump is setting the democrat agenda back decades.
He's also setting human rights, scientific research, health care, etc, back decades as well! Yay Trump if you like to get easily preventable communicable diseases like measles spreading through the population (he is anti-vaccination), for example, or if you don't like clean water to drink (he's removing regulations about clean water), if you like smog from cars (he's removing regulations placed on car makers to reduce the emission rates). He's taking you back to the dark ages.

The hope of a world government is gone.
World government?

Let me guess, you are one of those people who thought the UN was taking over the US in "operation jade helm"?

They are hoping to slow Trump down, but he is doing so many things, they can only watch their world collapses.
Watching the US be taken back decades in a bad way, with the risk to health and safety of people being paramount, not to mention going back decades when it comes to human rights, clean air, clean drinking water, etc, is not something to celebrate, wellwisher. I think you'd have to be a moron to find that a good thing.

I agree with this, because there is a better way to do this.

Let's see..

President Donald Trump is proposing to shift oversight of the U.S. air traffic control from the federal government to an independent group, according to budget documents released on Thursday.

Trump, who called the U.S. air traffic control system “obsolete” in a meeting with airline executives last month, is proposing $16.2 billion for the Department of Transportation’s discretionary budget for fiscal year 2018, a reduction of 13 percent.
Yay Trump. Making air travel more expensive and less safe again!

Let me guess, you agree with this too?

The status quo is very inefficient and wasteful. How long have they been working on cancer?
And his proposal is to cut everything and #yolo...

The main problem is the overuse of statistical studies.
Wow..

If you had a rational theory, such as Einstein's relativity, one bad data point is enough to require the theory be revised. So far no such data has been found. With statistical studies, half your data can be bad, and the theory will be allowed to stand. This is a watered down standard of science, which is wasteful.
Again.. wow..

And not in a good way "wow". More in the 'what fresh hell is this?' "wow"..

To put this into perspective, say I came up with a logical theory of weather, where half my data does not correlate. The theory would be called wrong and I would be considered dumb for insisting on this. If I did the same things with statistics, now I can get published. This is shakedown will increase the standard, since less means more for sure things, which are heavily favored by rational arguments.

In a statistical studies, one can find that coffee is good for you based on one set of data. Another study can find the opposite. If I did a logical study and claimed that coffee can be both good and bad for you, depending on the day, I would be called a moron. But with statistical science this is means two published studies. We have too much science that would be called, moron science, in a rational world of science. We need to raise the bar by limiting resources to only the best; rational arguments will finally win.
You do realise that is not how it actually works, yes?

It is not a Muslim ban, Muslims can still come from any Muslim countries, who can screen travel to the USA.
And yet, it is a Muslim ban..

Places like Libya and Syria are in chaos and can't control travel. Once again your arguments are all about distraction, using the con artist skills that are the basis for liberal policies.
Tell me something, if this was about national security, why not place a ban on Russia? Or Saudi Arabia?

The travel ban will also impact women from Syria, children from Syria, gays from Syria, short people from Syria, obese people from Syria, cross dressing people from Syria, people with handicaps from Syria, etc. Why is this not a female ban since most countries have more women than men? It is all about lawyer tricks, with freedom of religion a possible tactic. Religion is only important to liberals if it can be used a weapon. Liberals never care about religious freedom, useless they can use it like a prop or weapon. The liberal base is so early fooled by dual standards.
He's not banning them because of their sex, sexuality, age. He's banning them because of their religion.

Do you understand how this is unconstitutional?

The Democrats are dinosaurs about to go extinct. They are fighting the dying of the light. But one can smell the death fart.
Meanwhile your President's spokeswoman declared that microwave ovens can be used to "wiretap" Trump, and you have a President who cannot even spell the word "tap". As I said, Democrats can merely sit back and munch on popcorn as they watch the reality show unfold from the White House and Congress.

In a month, Republicans are turning on each other like a pack of wild animals, they have a President who is tweeting wild and insane conspiracies and false accusations in the dead of night and demanding Congress deal with it all, not to mention the fact that he's breaking the law by using his position to make money from his business interests.
 
Trump's priorities...

White House Budget Director Says Single Moms Shouldn’t Have To Pay For PBS
Sorry, Big Bird.

The White House’s budget director justified proposed cuts to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting by saying that it’s not fair to ask a “single mom in Detroit” or a “coal miner” to pay for it.​

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting funds PBS, which airs “Sesame Street” and other children’s shows. President Donald Trump’s federal budget plan, released on Thursday morning, proposes axing federal funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, as well as the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities.
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Patricia Harrison, president and CEO of CPB, said in a statement that the elimination of federal funds would be devastating.

“There is no viable substitute for federal funding that ensures Americans have universal access to public media’s educational and informational programming and services,” Harrison said. “The elimination of federal funding to CPB would initially devastate and ultimately destroy public media’s role in early childhood education, public safety, connecting citizens to our history, and promoting civil discussions – all for Americans in both rural and urban communities.”

“Public media is one of America’s best investments. At approximately $1.35 per citizen per year, it pays huge dividends to every American,” she continued.
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Trump could fund CPB, which was created as a nonprofit by Congress in 1967, for 121 years with the $54 billion he is seeking to increase military spending, according to The Washington Post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...a8cade4b0be71dcf1d3eb?utm_hp_ref=donald-trump

Funding for 121 years worth of "educational and informational programming and services" or "increase military spending" - which should I pick?

I'm sure wellwisher can appreciate the Orange One's reasoning: "We don't need no stinkin' education or information when we can have more bombs and guns - then we can go 'bang' bigly! It'll be yuuuge!" The Donald has no use for educating people about facts anyway - it might distract his base from their unadulterated worship of Himself...
 
This is nothing but a Democrat ploy because there are being sore losers. The President has the Constitutional authority to restrict immigration if he feels this impact national security. President Carter had an Iranian travel ban in the late 1970's. The Democrats did not complain about that since one of their own did this.

Well here is the thing Wellwisher, the US Constitution isn't a liberal conspiracy. It isn't a democratic ploy. It wasn't created because Democrats are "being sore losers". Several courts now have found Trump's Muslim bans to be illegal, in no small part because both Trump and his administration has referred to his executive orders as Muslim bans. Unfortunately for you and your right wing comrades, the US Constitution still matters.

Your comparing Carter's sanctions to what Trump has done is either ignorance or dishonest. Carter cancelled Iranian travel visas as part of a package of economic sanctions imposed in Iran for taking Americans hostage in Iran. That's not what Trump has done. Trump's travel bans were not part of a program of economic sanctions. And here is the thing, why do you need to travel bans? By the time this gets through the courts the 90 days Trump wants in order to implement his extreme vetting will have passed. Trump doesn't even know what his "extreme vetting" is. Trump cannot justify why a travel ban is necessary, and that's his problem. The reason for Trump's travel ban is because he used racism and fear as the backbone of his campaign.

The bottom line is, the Democrats have no real power, so all they can do is interfere and delay, using fake news arguments via their propaganda wing. Their world is changing and Trump is setting the democrat agenda back decades. The hope of a world government is gone. They are hoping to slow Trump down, but he is doing so many things, they can only watch their world collapses. This is leading to panic and increasing delusions and illusions.

More conspiracies? Why am I not surprised?

It is not a Muslim ban, Muslims can still come from any Muslim countries, who can screen travel to the USA. Places like Libya and Syria are in chaos and can't control travel. Once again your arguments are all about distraction, using the con artist skills that are the basis for liberal policies.

The travel ban will also impact women from Syria, children from Syria, gays from Syria, short people from Syria, obese people from Syria, cross dressing people from Syria, people with handicaps from Syria, etc. Why is this not a female ban since most countries have more women than men? It is all about lawyer tricks, with freedom of religion a possible tactic. Religion is only important to liberals if it can be used a weapon. Liberals never care about religious freedom, useless they can use it like a prop or weapon. The liberal base is so early fooled by dual standards.

Except both Trump and his spokespeople have repeatedly called it a Muslim ban. Now that he's got his privates stuck, it's suddenly not a Muslim ban. If Trump has a good reason to ban travelers from the specified countries he can make that argument before the court. But he repeatedly been unable to make that argument.

The Democrats are dinosaurs about to go extinct. They are fighting the dying of the light. But one can smell the death fart.

That's funny coming from you. Democrats won the popular election. For years Democrats have won the popular votes in Congress as well as the Presidency. And you think Democrats are going extinct? Seriously...? Were it not for the very undemocratic aspects of our government Democrats would control Congress and the White House.

Democrats are unified. Republicans are not, and they are just getting started. Trump within his first 100 days has managed to split the Republican Party as evidenced by the move to repeal Obamacare. In just a few days the Republican Party has become fragmented.
 
Absolutely. In fact, defunding NPR, PBS, et al. will save that single mom almost three cents per week in taxes. Amazing, right?
This is just another attempt by Republicans to dumb down the American people. The Republican effort to dumb down Americans began with the rise of right wing entertainment and the demise of the Fairness Doctrine.
 
Absolutely. In fact, defunding NPR, PBS, et al. will save that single mom almost three cents per week in taxes. Amazing, right?
I'm kind of surprised it's that much - that's a buck fifty a year.
Meanwhile your President's spokeswoman declared that microwave ovens can be used to "wiretap" Trump, and you have a President who cannot even spell the word "tap". As I said, Democrats can merely sit back and munch on popcorn as they watch the reality show unfold from the White House and Congress.

In a month, Republicans are turning on each other like a pack of wild animals, they have a President who is tweeting wild and insane conspiracies and false accusations in the dead of night and demanding Congress deal with it all, not to mention the fact that he's breaking the law by using his position to make money from his business interests.
Which is all true and all,

but while this is using up the bandwidth of the public discourse in chaos, Bannon's agenda (and Ryan's, and Putin's if it's directly involved) makes progress. If we assume that Bannon regards Trump as a useful tool and battering ram only, and has no other interest in his Presidency than as it advances Bannon's demolition project, even the eventual removal of Trump from the White House would not mark victory for the forces of good.
 
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