And what further proof do you have that this gone any further then the passage in your book that you hold dear.... Also, name calling is uncalled for, attack the ideas, not the man.
Rich people trying too keep their money hardely counts. However, these same rich people owning and operating a large portion of the media that is available to your average american and giving said media a decidely and addmittily pro-business slant to trick the people into subverting themselves IS. I'm talking about something we CAN DEFINITIVELY PROVE, EVEN WITH A CURSORY GLANCE!!!!!, not a snipe hunt as the things you speak of.
All you need to do is look at news corp and clear channel communications. For news corp (Faux news in the U.S.) old man murdock even said it was put out with a pro-business spin. Clear channel syndicates the Rush Limbaugh Show, Glenn Beck, the Sean Hannity Show, and many others. They own so much of the airwaves that in many places (such as were I live) the only opposing media is NPR and they are not even really opposing, just neutral.
I never called you any names. I questioned your reading and reasoning ability. If your boss stole from you, then wrote an article in the paper about it, and then you refused to believe it, I would be equally as incredulous. Same deal.
I apologize. My anger, I suppose, was incited by the fact that this is a legitimate political conversation that was cheapened by moving the thread to this sub-forum. The evidence for the Illuminati, how ever you wish to define them, is there. The ignorance of the moderation or the membership on the boards is no excuse for moving the thread here, nor is it one for making light of this issue. Just because the media, which incidentally, has been proved numerous times to be completely controlled by these same elites makes a mockery of this issue, does not mean the citizenry needs to dismiss it. This of course has always been their intended goal. When any sane educated person wishes to talk about these issues, because so much disinformation, fiction, and "sober" journalism has made light of this issue, the public no longer has the capacity to rationally understand what is going on. Mission accomplished.
It starts when you are young with STATE COMPULSORY EDUCATION. If you are taught since you were the age of five that such a grand controlling scheme is in the same league as little green men from mars. . . . well then, it is dismissed a prior, isn't it? Pointless discussing such things with closed minded people where such a discussion would cause cognitive dissonance. Eh?
The Makers of Modern Schooling
As far as your hang up with this other so-called "conspiracy?" Get off it all ready. . . you're acting like a noob. Do you even KNOW what the CFR is? Do you have any idea at all they all work for the same people? These are warning shots across the bow of News Corp. News Corp, Clear Channel, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC. . . Whatever, WHO REALLY CARES?!? THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. . . .
Bread crumbs I tell you. You are not listening to me. You do not do your own research, you just eat what they feed you, stop it. There is a whole loaf of bread out there. What happened to Glen Beck? He's off the air now. . . told too much. What happened to Keith Olbermann, kicked off, told too much. What about Napolitano? Definitely went too far! And if Dylan Ratigan doesn't shut his fat trap? He's next. The so called "conspiracy" you are fixated on has nothing to do with conspiracy, and everything to do with dirty laundry. All networks have their skeletons. It just so happens that this network poses the greatest threat to what the NWO, or Illuminati have planned currently. If they don't tone it down, there could be problems. Don't worry, they will, they'll get the message. Either that, or a few more fines will be paid, some people will be thrown under the bus, and they will lay off of Obama enough so he gets elected again.
Here. . . Let me help you out on that research on the Illuminati and the media, shall we? You somehow are under the mistaken impression that there is a difference between PBS, NPR, MSNBC, FOX NEWS, CLEAR CHANNEL, etc., well, look hard, if the organization is in bed with the CFR, well, there isn't, not a lick of difference. They all know the truth. What they are supposed to say, and what they do say? Now that is a different story.
Elites Push Government-funded "Public" Media
Here's a little excerpt;
"The CFR's "Profile of the Membership" in its 2008 Annual Report lists 398 members as journalists, correspondents, and editors. That includes members such as:
Michael P. Hirsh (Newsweek)
Jim Hoagland (Washington Post)
Fareed Zakaria (Time, CNN)
Thomas Friedman (New York Times)
Erin Burnett (CNBC)
Ethan Bronner (New York Times)
Paula Zahn (Discovery cable channel)
Heather Nauert (Fox News)
Norman Podhoretz (Commentary magazine)
Tom Brokaw (NBC)
Lesley Stahl (CBS)
Andrea Michell (NBC)
Elaine Sciolino (New York Times)
Diane Sawyer (ABC)
Deroy Murdock (Scripps Howard News Service and National Review Online)
David Ignatius (Washington Post)
Alan S. Murray (Wall Street Journal)
Jim Lehrer (PBS)
Margaret Warner (PBS)
Judy Woodruff (PBS)
Christopher Dickey (Newsweek)
Mortimer Zuckerman (U.S. News & World Report)
The above list barely scratches the surface of the elite media folks tied to Pratt House, the New York headquarters of the Council, located at 58 East 68th Street in Manhattan. The nearly 400 "Journalists, Correspondents, and Editors" counted on the CFR rolls does not include the many additional CFR members who are the executive officers of major media corporations. They may or may not be publicly well known but they are the bosses of the more visible members of the Fourth Estate. These include CFR members such as:
Michael Bloomberg (Mayor of New York City, founder/owner Bloomberg L.P.)
Rupert Murdoch (chairman, CEO News Corporation)
Jeffrey Bewkes (Chairman, CEO of Time Warner, in which capacity he oversees Time, CNN, TNT, HBO, TBS, Warner Bros., etc.)
Christopher Isham (CBS News vice president), and Barry Diller (IAC/InterActiveCorp and Washington Post).
In addition to the above-mentioned individual members there are CFR Corporate Members, which are major financial supporters of the CFR and its programs and agenda. The media organizations that have become CFR Corporate Members include Time Warner, ABC Inc., Bloomberg, News Corporation, General Electric (NBC Universal), Google, Thomson Reuters, and the Washington Post.
The Washington Post's ombudsman and columnist Richard Harwood detailed the CFR's domination of his own profession in an October 30,1993, column tellingly entitled "Ruling Class Journalists." In what was a rare admission (and/or boast) from a CFR establishment journal, Harwood characterized CFR members as "the nearest thing we have to a ruling establishment in the United States."
Harwood wrote:
In the past 15 years, council directors have included Hedley Donovan of Time Inc., Elizabeth Drew of the New Yorker, Philip Geyelin of The Washington Post, Karen Elliott House of the Wall Street Journal, and Strobe Talbott of Time magazine...
The editorial page editor, deputy editorial page editor, executive editor, managing editor, foreign editor, national affairs editor, business and financial editor and various writers as well as Katharine Graham, the paper's principal owner, represent The Washington Post in the council's membership.
The executive editor, managing editor and foreign editor of the New York Times are members, along with the executives of such other large newspapers as the Wall Street Journal and Los Angeles Times, the weekly news magazines, network television executives and celebrities, Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw and Jim Lehrer, for example, and various columnists, among them Charles Krauthammer, William Buckley, George Will and Jim Hoagland.
Harwood noted that the CFR's Ruling Class Journalists (CFR-RCJ) "do not merely analyze and interpret foreign policy; they help make it." And not only foreign policy, of course; they have also had (and continue to have) a huge hand in making domestic policy as well. They are not content, however, with the illicit power they already wield. They are upset that millions of Americans refuse to accept their direction and continue to seek news and information from sources beyond the control (as yet) of the CFR-RCJ thought cartel. So they are trying to build a fake public consensus in favor of taxing the American public to provide the CFR-RCJ cartel with tens of billions of dollars in government funding to force us to hear and see and read what they think is important for us."
You tell me. . . if the government can tap anyone's phone w/o a warrant, what is so bad about the press listening in on any government employee's phone, or corporate executive's phone? To tell you the truth, I'm really not concerned about this issue, it's a distraction from the real danger to the sovereign individual's freedom here. Don't you even know that the government has the right to read all of your communication, and listen to all of your calls, and you think the press listening to all of theirs is a conspiracy? I'm supposed to care about this? Really? REALLY? Are you shitting me? SERIOUSLY? Behind the closed doors of the CFR, they tell each other all sorts of things that they won't tell you anyway, so why are you all in a huff about this?