More proofs about the things I said in this thead...
Personal attacks already! When will I learn that rational discussion with fanatics is impossible.. not today!
Wasn't personal attack... I'm just telling the Truth... The Truth is that I should discuss the Truth in a forum about SCIENCE. Instead I should tell the Truth only for those who deserve to listen to it. Didn't Jesus told the Truth.
HEY CHRISTIANS! REPLY TO MY POSTS! THEY SAY THAT GOD DOESN'T EXISTS AND SOME OF THEM EVEN SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT JESUS!
Yeah... Jesus told the Truth. And have been crucified...
Jesus said in Matthew 7:6...
"Don't give holy things to depraved men. Don't give pearls to swine! They will trample the pearls and turn and attack you."
He was right... I should follow more the Word... And this is why this is my last reply. I can't do nothing if you attack me like that. My original message was simple and good, and when I started to discuss it, it turned a mess!!
And who is really the fanatic here? Me? Not really...
Well actually, we have lots of instruments that detect things other than matter. Ask anyone with eyes. Or anyone with a bathroom scale. If it could only detect matter, it would read the same for a cubic foot of lead as it would for a cubic foot of feathers.
Well... if you think that eyes can detect things other than matter... and you said in the fith quote:
Try me. As a student of physics, I'm willing to be that I have a hell of a lot more understanding than you do on that subject. Or maybe you were saying that to hide your own dismal lack of knowledge. Prove me wrong.
If you think that eyes can detect things other than matter... you really DON'T have a lot more understanding that me on that subject...! Everyone knows that eyes can ONLY detect matter... and actually, not even all the matter the eyes can detect... (I'm talking about atoms and energy)...
You know what? I don't know the answer to that. I also don't presume to know the answer because my answer happens to coincide well with my beliefs. Your 'argument' has no more validity than its reverse.
I can't argument against beliefs...
Matter is almost stopped by energy? Perhaps you'd care to explain the context in which matter may or may not be stopped. Oh, and what manner of power are you talking about? I suppose that over time, energy would translate to power, but you aren't clear on which you mean. The "Do as I say!" kind? Or the "1.21 Jiggawatts" kind? Also, that last line about the mysterious him manifesting himself again IMPLIES WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVE. This invalidates your argument, so STOP doing it.
If you read carefully what I wrote, I said:
Matter is almost stoped energy! If you are made by high energy (which gives you power), you won't manifest yourself here, would you? It's why He don't usually manifest Himself here (only when we are to dumb to understand...)
If you pay attention, I said: "Matter is almost stoped energy!" and not : "Matter is almost stoped
by energy." If you pay attention, you forget one little word called "
by"
This word makes all the difference in this sentence!! I said that the matter is a low-type energy.
This is what make possible the agregation of particles in the form of atoms, the low-energy of
the particles! Imagine if photons, for example, or any high-energy particles would be possibly gather together to form atoms... Impossible! Because its high-energy won't let them...
Continuing... power and energy here means the same thing: The capacity of work. As the equation... J=... I don't remember...
I'm more theoretical...
Not very good in math... Sorry about the incovenient...
In the last part of your quote... again, if you assume that God is Almighty, as the Christians says... His "power" (I'm talking about energy...) His energy must be high. And if His energy is hight, He can't appear physically as
atoms can't agregate to form "something" physical! This leads to one of my first statements in this thread:
We can't detect anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s.
This is the limit of matter. Anything beyond this limit can be considered matter. If you consider that something beyond this limit exists (than it comes the example of Vacuum creating particles), it's undetectable by physics. I know that you, as a Scientist Loves citations... here is one. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, physics is:
Science that deals with the structure of matter and the interactions between the fundamental constituents of the observable universe. In the broadest sense physics, which was long called natural ...
As you can see, Physics works only with matter and with the observable universe. But we can have an
evidence that God exists by seeing how He interacts with us. This is ultimetly proved with the particles coming from the Vacuum. And you can see it in the book "The Tao of Physics" by Fritjof Capra. You can see something about it in those sites:
http://www.shotokai.com/ingles/filosofia/introtao.html
http://fusionanomaly.net/fritjofcapra.html
As you can see, I'm not alone in this endeavor. If you want, you can stay behind... but you still have time to accept new ideas... The proofs are coming...
Random assertations. You going to back these up or am I going to have to guess what you mean or gloss over them? Why should that sentence be any different than "You have a Purple Elephant, you are a fire-breathing dragon"?
Beliefs... no arguments... I want to discuss the subject scientifically but you, like everyone, pushes the conversation to beliefs... Why are you still arguing about beliefs? I've never did it. Why do you do it?
This thread is to discuss about a scientific explanation about God, not to discuss the religious implications.
Why yes, yes we have. In fact, this planet has trillions of perfect specimens.
Good to see that you can detect them with your eyes...
With your second quote where you told that you can't detect matter with your eyes... I was starting to think that you are blind...
So what is your hypothesis exactly? The title of your post seems to say that the hypothesis is "God exists", but here at the end it seems to have changed to "God is Energy". And you end that paragraph referring to the bible, yet another source that assumes the existence of a god.
Again... what I'm trying to discuss here is the SCIENTIFIC implications about it. "God is Energy" is the Scientific explanation of "God exists". If you don't understand that, is simply because my first statement...
It is easy to see that you didn't understand anything that I said. I can't do nothing if your thoughts are so slow.
was completely right. And again... I'm here talking about the Truth...
Wow, that was a zinger. Here's mine: Maybe if you went out and bought a book on the methods of debate and argumentation, rather than repeatedly delving into your pouch of assumptions, falsities, and condescending attitude, you might make a better showing in this thread.
I surelly don't need to talk about that!! Anyone with good sense would say, after reading this post, that I'm right and who is making a "good showing" in this thread is me, and not you.
Better you start to read a book "on the methods of debate and argumentation" than to continue to argument like that.
Things that you said: I don't see. I can imagine the word "by". I argument against beliefs. I don't know physics (what are you doing here)... Did I forgot something...?
It doesn't matter... because you proved it all...
Another link... :
http://www.askalana.com
Blessings...
,
Nelson