masturbation, impure thoughts about your sister, lawyers
Originally posted by Adam
impure thoughts about your sister, lawyers, or other evil nasty things? If so, how?
The vast majority of atheists who have declared themselves atheistic have chosen such a path because of a deliberate conscious decision.Hello again. I'm just wondering if anyone can find any problems with atheism? Do you think it leads to more murders, rapes, wars, masturbation, impure thoughts about your sister, lawyers, or other evil nasty things? If so, how?
Originally posted by (Q)
The problem with atheism...
...is that atheism is still connected to religion. One must deny the existence of gods to be atheist.
What about if one never gives it a thought?
Not here. Here, religion has been on the decline since maybe the 50s or so. I personally know two christians and one buddhist. The buddhist is an aunt. The entire family apart from her never had anything to do with any religion. It would be a conscious decision to move toward religion, as our natural state is to be completely without it.Originally posted by Cris
Adam,
The vast majority of atheists who have declared themselves atheistic have chosen such a path because of a deliberate conscious decision.
While many priests are guilty of these crimes I did not imply that ALL priests are guilty. However, ALL catholic priests are now definitely tarnished with the knowledge that their particular profession is far from perfect.Both organisations are not tarnished by this but you tarnish ALL catholic priests which offends me. Not because im catholic but because the priests i know are ONLY priests in order to help people and are wonderfuly caring men.
Unless you have disconnected yourself from the world, have never watched TV, or listened to the radio, etc, then you must be fully aware that religions exist and what they offer, right? Since you are on the Internet then I know you are not a hermit.Not here. Here, religion has been on the decline since maybe the 50s or so. I personally know two christians and one buddhist. The buddhist is an aunt. The entire family apart from her never had anything to do with any religion. It would be a conscious decision to move toward religion, as our natural state is to be completely without it.
Originally posted by Adam
. To me, it was never anything more than a topic of occasional study. So, I am and always have been an atheist (a=not, theistic=religious). There was never any denial of deities or anything involved.
You’ve hit the nail on the head Adam, atheism is ignore-ance of Spirituality, nothing more.
I think the choice to reject religion and describe one's self as an atheist is quite different to never having been involved in religion in the first place (like me).
What people are rejecting are the ‘atheistic’ institutions who place themselves under the banner of religion, who, because they do not serve God according to the correct rules and regulation, are devoid of God.
‘Atheist’ is a description of ones spiritual state, which is ‘devoid of God.
The atheists who actively reject old beliefs or whatever seem, to me, somewhat petulant, like kids rejecting the authority of their parents and going out after curfew.
That is because deep down nobody rejects God, wholly, they’re just letting off steam, it may last moments or lifetimes, but eventually, if they are fortunate, they may get a chance to serve Him.
If that was not the case, they or yourself wouldn’t spend so much of your life thinking about Him.
Admit it, whether or not you believe He exists, He is the greatest personality in this world, certainly the most famous.
Only a complete idiot would not be at least curious.
What we call religion today, is so far removed from God, according to His own words, that people calling themselves atheist is understandable, but what they don’t understand is that anything we do which is not for the service of God, is atheistic. All God instructions are to be followed.
And then there are those like me who never had any contact with religion except as a mild curiousity while wandering about libraries.
But now you are curious….huh!
This objectivity can, unfortunately, lead to those with that petulant attitude calling me a "soulless bastard".
You are alive!
Therefore you are a soul!!
Love.
Jan Ardena.
Having ignorance of something that doesn’t exist can’t be bad. It saves times examining irrelevant mythologies.You’ve hit the nail on the head Adam, atheism is ignore-ance of Spirituality, nothing more.
Please name an atheistic institution that claims to be religious. I’m not sure what you mean here.What people are rejecting are the ‘atheistic’ institutions who place themselves under the banner of religion
This is the essential essence of extreme religious narrow-mindedness; the complete rejection of the concept that someone might possibly disagree with their single blinkered narrow view. The arrogant idea that the religionist must be right and everyone else is wrong. Or IOW the complete lack of tolerance.That is because deep down nobody rejects God, wholly, they’re just letting off steam, it may last moments or lifetimes, but eventually, if they are fortunate, they may get a chance to serve Him.
I dunno, Mickey Mouse is pretty famous, and probably more popular.If that was not the case, they or yourself wouldn’t spend so much of your life thinking about Him.
Admit it, whether or not you believe He exists, He is the greatest personality in this world, certainly the most famous.
Hmmm, Adam, I think you are being called an idiot.Only a complete idiot would not be at least curious.
Fortunately as scientific knowledge and better education spread throughout the world, the religious institutions strive desperately to evolve into something acceptable. Their struggle is futile since they are clearly entering the throes of their own destruction and death. We can only hope their screams won’t last long. If I could I would quickly end their suffering.What we call religion today, is so far removed from God, according to His own words, that people calling themselves atheist is understandable, but what they don’t understand is that anything we do which is not for the service of God, is atheistic. All God instructions are to be followed.
And, Adam, here we see the inevitable attempt at unsolicited conversion; the subtle beginnings of religious indoctrination. If you are not fully aware of the dangers of religion and make an effort to defend yourself you may well succumb to their insidious evil.But now you are curious….huh!
Originally posted by Jan Ardena
‘Atheist’ is a description of ones spiritual state, which is ‘devoid of God.
For you, perhaps. For most Atheists it is a description of one's mental state, which is; 'devoid of delusion' or at least devoid of that particular delusion.
That is because deep down nobody rejects God… If that was not the case, they or yourself wouldn’t spend so much of your life thinking about Him.
By this logic, if someone spends time thinking about Nazism they don't reject Nazism. Or if I spend time thinking about flying pink elephants I don't reject their existence.
Admit it, whether or not you believe He exists
Nope. Admit it, whether or not you believe, he doesn't.
The thing that I find interesting and curious is how people, such as you, come up with such a steadfast faith in your own knowledge of something that is not demonstrable.
All God instructions are to be followed.
Which ones are those? There's a bit of confusion on this topic. Even amongst people who share the same religion.
~Raithere