The Pope speaks: Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things. !!!!!

[Zephyr]

Oh dear. I thought the pope looked too much like a Sith lord.

 

[Baron Max]

When did we lose the right to the freedom of speech? And why is Islam trying to take that away from us? That ain't very nice of them, is it?

And just for my own curiosity, what other western-type freedoms do the Muslims wish to take away?

Baron Max

 

[S.A.M.]

When did we lose the right to the freedom of speech? And why is Islam trying to take that away from us? That ain't very nice of them, is it?

And just for my own curiosity, what other western-type freedoms do the Muslims wish to take away?

Baron Max

That's simply paranoia. There are only two ways you can lose your freedom:

1. You give it away.
2. You encroach on someone else's and lose the right to your own.

 

[The Devil Inside]

Much of that stuff is just plain scary. If you don't believe me, go through leviticus word for word. And things only go downhill from there.

i have, in hebrew.

we are going to disagree on this one, so we should not start.

 

[Nickelodeon]

When did we lose the right to the freedom of speech.....

You didn't. But some things people say, will anger other people, and you have to recognise that. Some things are said deliberately to anger people. I don't know the full story about the Pope comments but I doubt he wants to be inflammatory?

If you went up to someone and insulted his mother, and they hit you, would you say "OW! Stop restricitng my Freedom oif Speech!"

 

[Baron Max]

But some things people say, will anger other people, and you have to recognise that. Some things are said deliberately to anger people.

But if they make such a big deal about what outsiders say, what would they do if an Iranian says something they don't like? Beheading?

And so many of y'all seem perfectly content to support such regimes and tyrants. Why? How can you look at yourselves in the mirror and say some of the liberal-assed things you say here, yet be so willing to support such horrid regimes that curtain those simple freedoms?

If you went up to someone and insulted his mother, and they hit you, would you say "OW! Stop restricitng my Freedom oif Speech!"

No, I'd take his ass to court and sue him for a gazillion dollars. And I'd win, too, by the way!

Baron Max

 

[Prince_James]

""The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

This is the actual recounting of the quote.

He was not calling Islam itself evil, but evil for its practices of preaching by the sword. This is indeed a problem with Islam.

Frankly, this makes me love the Pope more. He has balls. He knows when to call out a religion's violence, both contemporary and historical.

If they call for a crusade, I will immediatly convert to Catholicism.

 

[Nickelodeon]

And so many of y'all seem perfectly content to support such regimes and tyrants. Why? How can you look at yourselves in the mirror and say some of the liberal-assed things you say here, yet be so willing to support such horrid regimes that curtain those simple freedoms?

Who's talking about regimes??

 

[Nickelodeon]

Frankly, this makes me love the Pope more. He has balls. He knows when to call out a religion's violence, both contemporary and historical.

If they call for a crusade, I will immediatly convert to Catholicism.

Is that supposed to be ironic?

 

[outlandish]

When did we lose the right to the freedom of speech? And why is Islam trying to take that away from us? That ain't very nice of them, is it?

And just for my own curiosity, what other western-type freedoms do the Muslims wish to take away?

Baron Max

more redneck delusional paranoia,

When did we lose the right to the freedom of speech?

nobody's taking your precious freedom of speech away.
The real question is is what is the nett worth of this precious freedom you hold so dearly? what valuable objectives have you acheived?
nothing bar insults and mud slinging. well if you expect to expout any old bullshit and then wave the freedom of speech card you're gonna have to expect other peoples freedom of speech in objection.

And why is Islam trying to take that away from us?

you have no knowledge of what islam is, hence dont try to opinionate on what you think a concept is trying to be/do when you cant even define that concept.

what other western-type freedoms do the Muslims wish to take away?

these freedoms that you hold so dearly aren't the exclusive property of the west.
when ya'll were rolling around in pigshit in the dark ages these so called "savage" civilisations were teaching the principles you lot have now hijacked as your own

 

[outlandish]

""The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

This is the actual recounting of the quote.

He was not calling Islam itself evil, but evil for its practices of preaching by the sword. This is indeed a problem with Islam.

Frankly, this makes me love the Pope more. He has balls. He knows when to call out a religion's violence, both contemporary and historical.

If they call for a crusade, I will immediatly convert to Catholicism.

but evil for its practices of preaching by the sword.

you lack complete knowledge of islamic history specifically al-seerah, otherwise you would know that the prophet Mohammed never used violence to preech rather was constantly the victim of violence and aggression.
The only time violence was used was when muslims were faced with attacks from non muslims.

but its the same old shit, muslims defend themselves but they are the aggressers.

 

[candy]

It seems that some of the muslim terrorists do not know much about Christian sects as they attacked a Greek Orthodox church in retaliation for what the Roman Catholic Pope said.

 

[phonetic]

you lack complete knowledge of islamic history specifically al-seerah, otherwise you would know that the prophet Mohammed never used violence to preech rather was constantly the victim of violence and aggression.
The only time violence was used was when muslims were faced with attacks from non muslims.

but its the same old shit, muslims defend themselves but they are the aggressers.

Because you were there I take it?
Cites?

The pope is quite clearly a tit. Maybe he likes the power he's got and he's decided to test the water a little, but considering the main topic in the media the past few years, you'd really have thought he would think twice about saying something like that. In no way am I saying the (silly, naughty, extreme(?)) muslims have been shown the green light here, but you just know they're going to make a point about it.

 

[vincent]

vinnie:



your sensitivity towards muslims is a transparent facade and a sham.
you fool nobody britboy.

I am afraid you are wrong here, as a catholic i am disgusted by the leader of my faith quoting such idiots as this, at a time when there is a religous war going on between islam & other faiths, what he done in my opinion is infantile & dangerous & damn hateful. Hence my attack on the idiot, i am proud to be a catholic, this absolute moron makes me not proud to be one.

What my views on muslims are has nothing to do with this, this man is a leader of of the catholic faith he is supposed to be acting responsible at all times, & not like a neo nazi racist, even i with my opinions about muslims would never had made such a reckless statement on TV, what makes it worse he makes it in his home country, the sooner this idiot goes the better for the catholic faith, or else he is going to ruin my religon, i never liked the look of this guy, now i know why.

 

[madanthonywayne]

I wonder if western christians would demonstrate in protest if some top level Muslim cleric made disparaging public comments about Christianity?
Hmm, problably not.

If? Give me a break. They are constantly calling America the Great Satan, saying the only way there can be peace is if we all convert to Islam and bow down to them, saying Jews are pigs, etc. Check out this Muslim prayer:

O Allah may you make the apostates against each other and the polytheists against their likes and bring out the Unitarians from them safely, with their spoils, O Lord of Worlds, O Allah. May their women be widowed, may their children be orphaned, may their blood freeze in their veins, may their food be stuck in their inner testines. O Allah, destroy them make their miseries strong among them, O Allah grant us victory over them, O Allah send your punishment on them, bring division in the midst of their union, scattering them, disseminating their numbers. O Allah, grant us victory over them. O Allah may their snares be slaughtered and be scuttled within themselves. O Allah show us your power. O Mighty One and the Vanquisher, O Allah show us in them a dark day as in the day of A’ad and Thamud. O Allah, quake the earth under their feet, O Allah empower venomous creatures over them and send hail storms over them as you did over A’ad and Thamud and deliver them as captives in the hands of your believing slaves and humiliate the polytheists and, O Allah, lift up the banner of Islam … http://answering-islam.org.uk/NonMuslims/islam_above_criticism.htm

Ah yes. The religion of peace. I am so sick of everyone walking on eggshells for these prehistoric idiots. Southpark can't show an image of Mohamad. Even Mind of Mencia had an invisible Mohamad on his all faith cage match. They can dish it out all day long, but they can't take it.

 

[Clockwood]

Oh dear. I thought the pope looked too much like a Sith lord.

I know the guy who keeps switching Ratzinger's image on wikipedia with Palpatine's.
Don't think that revelation is anything original.

 

[S.A.M.]

If? Give me a break. They are constantly calling America the Great Satan, saying the only way there can be peace is if we all convert to Islam and bow down to them, saying Jews are pigs, etc. Check out this Muslim prayer:


Ah yes. The religion of peace. I am so sick of everyone walking on eggshells for these prehistoric idiots. Southpark can't show an image of Mohamad. Even Mind of Mencia had an invisible Mohamad on his all faith cage match.

I've lived in the ME and I've never even heard of this prayer.

Don't believe everything you read online.

As for calling America the great Satan; hmm what would you call a country that installed dictatorships and supplied weapons to both sides and sat back debating a sustained ceasefire while your country was being bombed by bombs they had supplied? Or came to "rescue you" and "give" you democracy with a military invasion?

They've lived for over 50 years at the mercy of American foreign policy.

Just one 9/11 has all Americans baying for blood.

What has the US ever done that the ME should have confidence in Americans?

They can dish it out all day long, but they can't take it.

Exactly.

 

[PsychoticEpisode]

I'd like to personally thank the pope for confirming my opinion that religion is a lesion on the sphincter of man. I had forgotten the hubbub over cartoons, and now this.

If one person gets killed over this crap should the Pope be held accountable? Popular opinion currently has the Muslims as the agressor but shouldn't the antagonists, who know better, be just as guilty of violence by instigating?

 

[madanthonywayne]

If one person gets killed over this crap should the Pope be held accountable? Popular opinion currently has the Muslims as the agressor but shouldn't the antagonists, who know better, be just as guilty of violence by instigating?

NO. If someone makes a stupid comment, it's not a license to kill random people. Everyone behaves as though these Muslims are drunken retards not responsible for their actions. If anyone is killed over this, the blood is on the hands of the killers. Period.

 

[Clockwood]

Some rare and precious wisdom there.