The Pope speaks: Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things. !!!!!

stu43t said:
She weasels out of lots of questions like that - we call them her "shiny stones" - because she's got nothing else to offer.

Who's we?
 
samcdkey said:
If you keep up with the news you will know that the Sunnis and Shias from Iraq have no problems with each other.

Al-Qaeda has infiltrated Iraq and is using it as a training ground for their militants.

Or do you only watch faux news?
so i've been on the wrong news channel!
there are no sunni's killing shia's or vise versa , it's just Al-Qaeda hoodlums on the warpath!

aren't all Al-Qaeda sunni's???
 
Vega said:
so i've been on the wrong news channel!
there are no sunni's killing shia's or vise versa , it's just Al-Qaeda hoodlums on the warpath!

aren't all Al-Qaeda sunni's???

You mean you think they differentiate? :rolleyes:

Its all cannon fodder to them.
 
Zakariya04 said:
yes islam is very tolerant and peacefull

by the way

Oh Zak, shouldn't you be breaking fast now?

I still have a couple of hours to go

Do you think it is makru? :(

I lost my temper.
 
TruthSeeker said:
If not all muslims are terrorists, then how can you claim that the cause of terrorism is the muslim religion? If all muslims were terrorists, then yes, there would be some interesting relationship there. But if only 5% of muslims are terrorists, then you cannot claim that the islamic religion is not peaceful and does not preach peace.

Just because a few people decided to use religion as an excuse for fighting for power, doesn't mean the whole religion is violent.



So check your logic... ;)

My logic is intact Truth' - like I said - Not all muslims are terrorists - but all terrorists are muslim - that speaks for itself.

Islam preaches:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, ... nor follow
the religion of truth... until they pay the tax in acknowledgment
of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
Qur'an, Sura 9:29

Oh - and the Sharia law - quite sickening really

BUT! - If you believe that the world is a better place for having Islam in it then thats your choice - but I would question your values if this was the case. The world would be a safer and more peaceful world without Islam - it still wouldn't be a perfect world but it would be a giant step in the right direction.
 
stu43t said:
My logic is intact Truth' - like I said - Not all muslims are terrorists - but all terrorists are muslim - that speaks for itself.

Islam preaches:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, ... nor follow
the religion of truth... until they pay the tax in acknowledgment
of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
Qur'an, Sura 9:29

Oh - and the Sharia law - quite sickening really

BUT! - If you believe that the world is a better place for having Islam in it then thats your choice - but I would question your values if this was the case. The world would be a safer and more peaceful world without Islam - it still wouldn't be a perfect world but it would be a giant step in the right direction.

Sounds like the same logic used by the Al-Qaeda for the US.

Please refer to this thread:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=58083


And you still haven't told me:

stu43t said:
She weasels out of lots of questions like that - we call them her "shiny stones" - because she's got nothing else to offer.


Who is we?
 
stu43t said:
If it is not Islam - then why were they murdered???

lol :rolleyes:

There will always be those that use the actions of a few to attack the many, it happens. Muslims have been the victims of some of the worst crimes ever perpetrated. Islamic extremists have been killing innocent Muslims well before 9/11 and it continues to this day. Muslims in the West are facing lots of trials, increased discrimination etc. I personally see all this as a test from God and we will see it through. .

What is it all for? 99% of Muslims can condemn terrorism and extremism yet it won't mean anything to the warmongers and extremists. There are people out there that hate us (Muslims) with a passion, there are people out there that want us thrown out of the West (though we've been brought up here), I've spoken to people like that.

Bring it on, any attack against Islam and the Muslim communities Worldwide can be dealt with in an intelligent and noble manner.

Stu43t, do something for me. Show me how my religion commands Muslims to go about killing innocent people, show me where Islam commands people to hijack planes and slam them into innocent people. Show me where my religion calls for people to shoot nuns in the back. Go on... :eek:

Now America has killed countless Muslims in its quest to secure the natural resources in the Mid-East (War on terror). Chemical weapons, Depleted Uranium, torture, sexual abuse, murder etc. It goes on and on. I detest Bush and the Neo-Cons, however I do not hate America. I do not hold Americans responsible for what is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. I can never say anything bad about your average American citizen, I can never wish any harm to fall upon any American anywhere. That is what my religion teaches me. That is what makes Muslims different to some of the people here. I cannot go about promoting hatred against anyone, that is just wrong. Hopefully you will see the light.

:D
 
Ghost_007 said:
Stu43t, do something for me. Show me how my religion commands Muslims to go about killing innocent people, show me where Islam commands people to hijack planes and slam them into innocent people. Show me where my religion calls for people to shoot nuns in the back. Go on... :eek:

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, ... nor follow
the religion of truth... until they pay the tax in acknowledgment
of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
Qur'an, Sura 9:29
 
stu43t said:
I'm talking about Islam which is blatantly obvious even to an idiot - not Al Quaeda

We is Q - took you ages to work that out sammy dear - I thought you was clever too

Thank you, I figured it was (Q), I wanted your confirmation.

And I'm glad you FINALLY figured out that Islam and AL-Qaeda are as synonymous as democracy and Bush.
 
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stu43t said:
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, ... nor follow
the religion of truth... until they pay the tax in acknowledgment
of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
Qur'an, Sura 9:29

So thats it?

This Ayat calls for terrorist attacks and murder? Even in war Muslims are given strict guidelines, no non-combatant can be harmed. I can post more on this if you want.

Are you a Mufti by any chance? lol :D
 
Ghost_007 said:
Stu43t, do something for me. Show me how my religion commands Muslims to go about killing innocent people, show me where Islam commands people to hijack planes and slam them into innocent people. Show me where my religion calls for people to shoot nuns in the back. Go on...

Is this what they mean by 'Muslim tolerance'?

Listen to this: "Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate."

Or then again, this: "Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends."

Then there is the instruction to fight against those who are not of the true faith "until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued".

All are direct quotations from the Koran, which Muslims believe to be the absolute word of Allah, and which cannot be altered.

If you seek even more ferocious attacks on Christianity and Judaism, you will find them in the Hadith, Islam's other great book of scripture.
 
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