but is Jesus not an entity of God? but are not we not entities of God if God is everything?
The physics behind Jesus walking on water
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but is Jesus not an entity of God? but are not we not entities of God if God is everything?
the precise term for a living entity is "part and parcel" of god
IOW they both partake of the same nature, but eternal distinctions of "sustainer" and "sustained" remain
what sort of distinctions are these? And how in the world is that possible to exist in a universe that is God in its entirety?
ok - that's a technical question but here is the condensed version of the answer
the universe of matter is one eternal contingent energy of god
the universe of spirit is another eternal contingent energy of god
the living entities are also another eternal contingent energy of god
god exists independent of these three energies, much like a fire exists independent of heat, fire and smoke
the distinction is that the living entity is constitutionally marginal - that means it has no scope for being independent and must exist in either the universe of matter or the universe of spirit.
IOW the living entity is never in a situation where the material or spiritual universe is contingent on them, no matter whether they are conditioned or liberated
are you saying living entities are same eternal contingent energy as spirits? Or are these two different? And if living entities are contingent energy of God...than is God a contingent energy of us?
I don't understand your question
no
contingency (generally) indicates a one way relationship
for instance heat, smoke and light are contingent energies of fire - if fire is moved 50 meters somewhere else, the contingent energies follow.
If the heat, fire and smoke is somehow sucked up, the fire simply continues to generate them
sorry
now I understand your question
no the two are different
the universe of spirit accommodates consciousness of god (while the universe of matter accommodates forgetfulness of god)
the living entity is thus situated in either one or the other states of existence
we are all eternally dependent on god - thus we are fitting into either the universe of "forgetfulness" or the universe of "awareness" according to our attitude/desire
usually validity is examined according to models of logic or truth ... as opposed to aroma
generally of course, any discussion becomes difficult when one would prefer to use one's nose (ie personal bias) rather than one's faculties of contemplation
... mind you - opening a thread about the physics of jesus walking on water, i'm not sure what sort of dialouge you were expecting .....
I was expecting to hear something like this:
If Jesus is an object with mass of 50kg and surface area exposed to water is 1.8 square meters...the pressure induced on water molecules...
so in other words you were expecting answers along the lines "It seems pretty difficult to do"
so in other words you were expecting answers along the lines "It seems pretty difficult to do"
no...I was expecting to see equations...and lots of them.
then why talk of jesus specifically?
why post in the religion thread?
why not talk of water skiing or something?
well...anything with "Jesus" gets to be moved to religion...so I figured why bother the moderators tireless lives...
what special contribution does discussing jesus, per se, have to do with your blissful anticipation of copious equations?
well maybe...just maybe I want to hear what religious people have to say of Jesus walking on water and not in language of physics but their beliefs.
so why aren't you satisfied with what I answered?
but I am...now I await for some physics' related responses.