The morality behind veganism

cluelusshusbund said:
Ive been vegitarian for over 45 years... an about 20 years ago i bout some vegie hot-dogs... i bit into one an it was just like eatin a real hot-dog an i spit it out an looked at the package to make sure it realy was vegetarian... an it was... but it was so close to real pig that it grossed me out... so i thank i woud have a prollem wit the new real fake "meat".!!!
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I've been gradually breaking away from meat and dairy, but watching documentaries on the awful conditions and practices taking place on dairy and beef farms, I'm convinced on a moral level about abandoning dairy and beef consumption, completely. I like a lot of the vegetarian ''alternatives'' out there, like veggie burgers, etc. I'm careful to not consume too much soy, as that's not healthy in large amounts. So, I'm looking forward to learning and exploring the different dietary options and making new recipes.

I posted a link above, is that what you are talking about in terms of ''artificial'' meat?
 
wegs said:
I've been gradually breaking away from meat and dairy, but watching documentaries on the awful conditions and practices taking place on dairy and beef farms, I'm convinced on a moral level about abandoning dairy and beef consumption, completely. I like a lot of the vegetarian ''alternatives'' out there, like veggie burgers, etc. I'm careful to not consume too much soy, as that's not healthy in large amounts. So, I'm looking forward to learning and exploring the different dietary options and making new recipes.
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Yes i agree wit the moral issue... an yes to much tofu can cause issues... an i like most types of vegi-meat products ive tried... i just didnt care for the one that tasted real.!!!

The main ones i eat are mornin star bacon... original grillers... griller crumbles... an the round chic-patty... but i mostly eat a varity of seeds nuts berries (like a bear... lol) fruits vegetables beans... well you get the pitcher... O... an i eat dairy... so i have no prollem gettin the nutrition i need.!!!
 
iceaura said:
So imaginary cow preferences for a cow-free landscape of soybean rows are within your powers, but not imaginary potato preferences for being left alone in the dirt.
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Hay... i woud perfer to be shot than fattened up for slaughter... an you woudnt.???
 
I don't have a problem honestly with humane, organic farming practices. Just becomes a matter of doing some research as to where the starting point is for your food supply. It can be as simple as looking at various websites of your commonly purchased groceries, and learning about their mission statements and practices. You'd be surprised at how some companies are against factory farms, and only work with farms that believe in the humane treatment of their animals. I've noticed companies that only buy from humane farms, offer pricier goods than their competitors, but the cost incentive is worth peace of mind, in my opinion.
 
wegs said:
What are your thoughts about the morality behind veganism/vegetarianism?
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I think that's great should a person choose to deny themselves protein because of moral principle. Will it have any real impact on the farm or change the treatment of animals? I doubt it. But I respect your choice not to participate as a consumer. Processed food is a huge industry. I have worked in that arena twice. It is a conveyor process that starts at one side of the plant and ends up nicely packages at the other. I'm not at all surprised that livestock is treated in much the same manner. They are, basically, a commodity in the most practical terms. I suppose we could raise our own, but I think most people would start giving them names and become attached. Also, how many people know how to slaughter a cow?

I enjoy eating the variety of meats that are available, and wouldn't give them up. I understand your feelings concerning the treatment of the animals involved. Unfortunately the cold reality of our day and age is that everything is produced in mass and as efficiently as possible. That includes our food products. However, if you feel strongly about animal cruelty before it hits your plate, I can totally appreciate your resolve.
 
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I believe a hard boiled egg has more digestible protein than raw or fried.

I've called vegans hypocrites for eating hard boiled eggs.
 
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Hell is famous for its cattle. Would you eat the meat of only and if deceitful animals?
 
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