So we have two obnoxious no-it-alls
'Know-it-alls'.
Couldn't resist.
I do wonder how sincere you and CSS are. For instance, I quote him saying he's got 'advanced ideas' but when I ask him to follow that up, nothing appears. Was he sincere in his belief in him having an 'advanced idea' at the time of writing, only to realise he's actually got nothing when I press him or was he never sincere at all?
who want to drive home their ego driven obsession with a few of us whom they have deemed not worthy to be here and discuss anything
There's a difference between saying "I've been wondering something, is there any validity or justifiable discussion in the idea the universe is curved back on itself to make a torus" and what CSS says, which is "I've got an advanced idea which explains dark energy in a simple way". The notion of a toroidal universe does have some credibility, though few things related to it are considered 'mainstream'. Discussion of that is not 'mainstream' but I wouldn't call it worthless or pointless by any stretch. The claim CSS makes is quite different and we can all see that when pressed he's got nothing actually to say.
Tentative discussion of somewhat outlandish or uncommon ideas? Sure. Claims you've got some simple explaination to a difficult to understand phenomena? Let's see it. Oh, you can't provide? What a shame.....
Their obsession is a window into their character and their posts are a reflection of their self image. AN and Prometheus are science elites with inflated views of their worth
You and CSS think you both have worthwhile contributions/explainations/ideas. CSS is particularly straight talking in the regard. Neither Prom nor I think our work is paradigm shifting, neither of us think we've got some view of things noone has ever considered and it's revolutionary. You and CSS certainly think you're somehow above the usual dross. So which group of us have inflated views of our worth? Prom and I have published work we never claim to be amazing. You and CSS have nothing to show and plenty to claim.
and anti-social behaviors who’s lives outside the forums are doomed to be failures if they act this way at work and home.
Prom is married and quite happy. I'm in a long term relationship, close to finishing and looking forward to getting a job. My attitude to cranks is not the same as my attitude to people in everyday life. If someone sitting at a table having lunch with me makes the claim "I've got a theory which overturns Einstein, here I'll draw it on a napkin" then I'll rip it to shreds but generally that isn't the topic of conversation I have with people and I'm perfectly polite. Infact, I
avoid science discussion with people because few people enjoy hearing about other people's work so I don't open discussions with "I'm a physicist, don't ya know?", I simply say "I'm a PhD student".
But thanks for trying to generalise how we treat people we deem to be liars online to how you think we treat everyone. Besides, would you deem a doctor who says to a quack "I dont think you know any medicine" someone 'doomed to failure'? Or do you think doctors who stand their ground are just being confident in what they know? You happen to be making claims in areas Prom and I work in. I don't correct mechanics or doctors, I don't try to make up my own engine models or my own medicine and I don't think someone trained in htose things is 'doomed to failure' because they are confident in their training.
I think your comments about us say more about you than us. You view people who have knowledge and experience as somehow 'egotistical elites'. I suppose you don't go to doctors when you feel rough, you just pray or do homeopathy? Damn smug money grabbing doctors telling
you how
your body works!
They are failures here in the Pseudoscience forum because they act like it is the Physics and Math forum where hard science is discussed. Either that or they are slumming over here where they should know the standards for discussion are not aimed at hard science but just discussion of ideas. Pseudoscience should be moderated to encourage discussion instead of discourage it.
As I said to you when you PM'd me, I'll stop saying "Oh really, can you show it?" when you and CSS stop saying "I've got something which describes [X], which isn't mainstream". I don't make claims I can't back up, why should you?
If a moderator clarifies that the difference between Pseudo and the usual forums is that any old hack can make wild claims which they are
not required to back up ss equivalent to saying "You are
not allowed to press home the questions of "Can you back that up?" or "So where's your workings?" when outlandish and extraordinary claims are made" and it'll clarify that Prom and I aren't allowed to badger people like you to put up or shut up. If the moderator says we're allowed to ask you to put up or shut up then
tough to you. You'll just have to keep pretending you're some free thinker being persecuted by the 'egotistical elite who are doomed to failure' a bit more.
