The aquatic ape hypothesis was never crazy

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NEVER gonna get into water at that occupancy level. I'm suspicious of tap water. Test it weekly. Humans in the loop, caveat emptor.
 
Like I say, you take their word for it. You think you don't have to form your own opinion. Nullius in Verba does not apply.



How about you actually read the claims, before you stamp them with that false moniker?

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THERE it is! Love the floating breasts and the floating kids.

Did you do that with your kids? Do you think any parent, ever, would?
 
You're still cartooning Darwin as a chimpanzee for stupid sociological reasons.
You are confusing me with someone else.

Who says they have no access to water?
Because it's the semi-arid savannah.
And yet the savannah is manifestly bursting with life. It is home to a very rich and fertile ecosystem of predators such as lions, cheetahs, leopards, mambas, hyenas, crocs - as well as vast herds of prey such as wildebeest, giraffe, zebra, buffalo, not to mention warthog and ostrich.

It appears you have never clapped eyes on any books, video or TV shows about the African savannah. Instead, I strongly suspect you are simply mindlessly repeating things you've been told, without thinking them through for yourself. Because you really haven't thought them through.
 
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A German physician pointed out the health risks of infant diving and the sometimes serious consequences as early as 1986, writing that since the introduction of baby swimming in Germany, several hundred infants had died from brain complications as a result of sinusitis and otitis that occurred after diving. Pediatricians also reported cases of cardiac arrest or respiratory failure.
 
A German physician pointed out the health risks of infant diving and the sometimes serious consequences as early as 1986, writing that since the introduction of baby swimming in Germany, several hundred infants had died from brain complications as a result of sinusitis and otitis that occurred after diving. Pediatricians also reported cases of cardiac arrest or respiratory failure.
I would be interested I reading about that. Do you have a more specific reference?
 
And yet the savannah is manifestly bursting with life. It is home to a very rich and fertile ecosystem of predators such as lions, cheetahs, leopards, mambas, hyenas, crocs - as well as vast herds of prey such as wildebeest, giraffe, zebra, buffalo, not to mention warthog and ostrich.

And where would you prefer to be right now of the two? Sapiens?

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It is such a relief that you have already caused your own extinction by 2100 AD. You don't deserve any better when you mistreat your own brilliant minds like this. Starting two million years ago, eating them oysters gave you that big brain you're so bloody proud of, and for 40,000 years now you have been gradually losing that brain because you started dumping that diet again in favor of terrestrial big game. Slowly walking towards your suicide. You're not the peak of evolution, you're just an overrated, self-destructive ape with fission bombs.
 
Yes. It's called baby swimming.
Nope. We weren't talking about people swimming for fun. We were talking about the image where the mother lets the baby float freely, and then lets it float up to her breasts to nurse. You know, as detailed in the picture you posted.

So to be clear here, when your children were born, your wife didn't hold them to nurse? She put them in water and let them float around, and every once in a while they happened to latch on?
 
Nope. We weren't talking about people swimming for fun. We were talking about the image where the mother lets the baby float freely, and then lets it float up to her breasts to nurse. You know, as detailed in the picture you posted.

So to be clear here, when your children were born, your wife didn't hold them to nurse? She put them in water and let them float around, and every once in a while they happened to latch on?

That's nice, Ivan.
 
I would be interested I reading about that. Do you have a more specific reference?

Will try to find better one, later
 
humans evolved to be able to swim (i.e. very slightly webbed fingers,
While I'd not dispute so much that humans "evolved to be able to swim" (only in nearly nit-picking levels that most likely humans and more basal extinct apes and more closely related monkeys already inherited a decent basic mammal-able-to-swim set of adaptations, more so than humans themselves developing it much further from an unable-to-swim immediate pre-human state), the level of "slightly webbing" on human's fingers seems more like a necessary byproduct of a hand being a fleshy, flat structure with five elongated segmented appendages, all enveloped in thin skin. Maybe even more so with the fingers first developing all clumped together and tissue apoptosis separating them, if I'm not mistaken.

It would be more noteworthy of being a likely evolutionary adaptation if somehow the hand development circumvented having even this nearly unavoidable "webbing" with the same structural materials.

less body hair
The human level of hairlessness most likely has nothing whatsoever to do in our level of abiility to swim. It only "makes sense" under the much "stronger" (or "bold"/onerous) hypotheses that humans were this dolphin-chimp of sorts. Many mammals that are far more aquatic than humans (in mainstream science thinking) are all furry, the hairless ones are more extremely aquatic. It makes as much sense as to point our hairlessness as a cave adaptation of cavemen/hairless-molemen.
 

Will try to find better one, later

No, that's literally the reference.
 
The human level of hairlessness most likely has nothing whatsoever to do in our level of abiility to swim. It only "makes sense" under the much "stronger" (or "bold"/onerous) hypotheses that humans were this dolphin-chimp of sorts.

'Cause no semiaquatic mammal has ever lost its fur.

Many mammals that are far more aquatic than humans (in mainstream science thinking) are all furry,

'Cause those evolved in colder climates. Keep up!

the hairless ones are more extremely aquatic.

Except the one that kills the most human beings every year amongst larger species. Living in the same general substrate. Holding its breath under water for as long as us.

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It makes as much sense as to point our hairlessness as a cave adaptation of cavemen/hairless-molemen.

Uhuh, none at all.

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