Originally posted by Jenyar
Perfection is not necessary for salvation - but truth and righteousness is. The truth is not always easy on the ear, easy to understand or to your liking. If you don't like the love described by Solomon, or the beautiful poems by David, or any of the stories of the Old Testament, it does not mean what you have is somehow superior or more true.
I'm glad you said the truth is important, because I have a dilemma here. A book that is available in it's original language written in superior perfect arabic tells me
that there is no original sin and that Eve didn't sleep with a serpant, while a bible that I know nothing about it's origin tells me that we are born in sin and that woman is the cause of sin.
That Quran tells me that all people are equal in god's eye and are judged based on their ability to restrain from evil, that other huge book of garbage tells me that people are not equal, that sin continue to the 4th or tenth generation, that people need a mediator between them and god called Jesus, that we need to be dipped in water to become born again, that we need to be born again although logic tells me that a person is born once.
Again that Quran tells the story of Abraham in such ease and beauty, it never say that god commanded Abraham to kill Ismael, ect...The bible makes no sense and jumps events, first Ismael is described as a baby, and Sarah says that boy is mocking me, a baby can mock, wow...then Abraham to sacrifice his ONLY son Isaac, then both decendants to have great lives, yet the sons of Isaac are chosen.
This bible tells story of prophets of god sleeping with their daughters and doing horrible acts, while in the Quran, I find not a single single sexcual lowly language.
Then those chrisitians are jealous from the Quran and can't refute the errors in their bible, so they decend in level and start mocking the Prophet and picking on his life and what they claim he said out of the context of Quran in Hadith. I don't see too much criticism of the Quran, just Prophet Muhammed and the Hadith.
Come on Jenyar, after all that and there is much more, will you tell me again about this truth of yours and believing in a man that was god send. My book tells the christians.
[4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
[5.116] And when Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! did you say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah he will say: Glory be to Thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it; Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in Thy mind, surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen things.
[3.59] Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.
[5.110] When Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! Remember My favor on you and on your mother, when I strengthened you I with the holy Spirit, you spoke to the people in the cradle and I when of old age, and when I taught you the Book and the wisdom and the Taurat and the Injeel; and when you determined out of clay a thing like the form of a bird by My permission, then you breathed into it and it became a bird by My permission, and you healed the blind and the leprous by My permission; and when you brought forth the dead by My permission; and when I withheld the children of Israel from you when you came to them with clear arguments, but those who disbelieved among them said: This is nothing but clear enchantment.
So Jenyar, how do you expect me to see your prepective while my noble Quran tells me that those that believe Jesus is god or son of god have indeed disbelieved. I'd rather stay on the believers side.
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