Originally posted by everneo
was the supposed reason effectively used by what you call 'islamic resistance movement' (IRM?) for recruitment by interpreting the massacres as 'systematic genocide of muslims'.
I know that quite a few went there , the western media presented a situation that resembled the Jewish holocaust but instead of Jews it were Muslims , before any attempts to recrute are made this was in the mind of Western citizens , Muslim and other .
Surely this would assist in the recrutement , but moreover it assisted Bosnians and Kosovars to go and fight for their peoples . It is not as if their peoples did not need all the help they could get , this encouraged the proces .
For instance , perhaps hard to imagine in these times , western media was making documentaries on the new Amerikan or European recrutes fighting for the Kosovar Liberation Army that fought against the Serbian police and military forces in Kosovo , identified by Serbs as pan-Albanian Islamic terrorists .
I can understand the position of the boys that went to those countries to fight for their peoples , as Bosnians & Kosovars or as Muslims and I have respect for their attempts to liberate , the organizations that backed this resistance , national or Islamic , fought for liberation of their peoples .
but what was the benefit for US or western world to demonize serbia.? may be that left & right bias.?!
Who's bias ? Communist Yugoslavia was falling apart , and as this happened they had to choose sides to have a hand in the post-war controll and thus benefit .
And as they choose a side (Croats+Muslims) they made it a bad guys/good guys to the maximum .
We can argue the motives why this happened , but there is no doubt whatsoever that the western media invented this entire story about a Muslim holocaust through governmental manipulation and PR .
Jim Harff from the Global Communication Centre in Washington DC explained the role of his PR & marketing firm in the Kosovo/Bosnia/Croatia media presentation .
George Kenney Foreign Service Officer who brought the term "ethnic cleansing" into our minds explained the situation as "day-to-day policy" , in which there was great uncertainty in what to do .
was generally known as the breaking of western inactivity and finally acted to save the muslims on their own demand. but you say it was an excuse not cause. when you compared iraq situation it was not iraqi people who invited US/UK forces. if US/UK sit tight they were accused; if they act on growing demand and worsening of the situation, again they were accused of using the situation as excuse for invasion.? which one is to be blamed.? their action or inaction.? perhaps you have your own reasons for you above remarks. but certainly the IRM, muslims and the rest of the world blamed the inaction. how & why you see their action had an excuse rather than cause.?
After the Serbia was demonized (which was long before Kosovo , Omarska was in Bosnia , Serbia was simply the demonic nazi enemy of the world .
In Kosovo there was a political war , once more , ongoing . This war between the Kosovar federal ruling and Milosevic's nationalism , as he brought the controll of Kosovo back to Serbia while it was more or less self-ruled in the traditional system .
From here one seperatism immerged and so did the Kosovar Liberation Army . The innitial conflicts of Kosovo were between the KLA and Serbian police , not between the peoples of Kosovo and the Serbian military as was claimed (ethnic cleansing) .
The fact that they still have no evidence for such Serbian intentions , the fact that many Kosovar refugees fled to Serbia , and the fact that the population of Kosovo , other than politically , lived in the autonomy of their own culture , had Albanian newspapers and so on , shows that the KLA claims were not representing the truth and that they started a war on Serbia themselves in order to seperate . It is not that I disagree with seperation , but once more there was no Kosovar final solution just like there was no Bosnian final solution .
Since the West chose sides long before 1998 , they engaged an immense propaganda war encouraging their team the KLA , and demonizing once more their enemy the Serbs .
I have little knowledge on what lovely shit there is to get in Kosovo , my friend from Bosnia (Catholic) told me about mines that are valuable somehow .
Anyways the less Serbia (enemy) the better , and that is why NATO attacked , not because of some pressue by propagating Muslims , since the propaganda was Western to begin with .
IRM agenda that has a flaw of religious fundamentalism.
The only ones who have a more relevant agenda that represents the peoples of Bosnia and Kosovo (Muslims) are the Bosnians and Kosovars themselves , and they allied the Islamic resistance .
Why has their agenda a flaw ? They fight for liberation of Muslims do they not ? I agree that incorrectness can emmerge from their methods , but how does it change the fact that they are Muslims fighting for Muslims ?
Islamic resistance movements always ally under Islam when in opressive situations against a common enemy , so the religious conservatism pretty much falls into irrelevance in their struggle .
Sure they might want an Islamic state of their own Fiqh after the battle , but that only worked in Afghanistan (where the Pashtun was willing) sofar . Most local & native peoples have no desire of such a thing and most of their recruits arent that religious even .
Islamic resistance does not equal to one partical Islamic school of thought that you might call fundamentalist .
