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OK...here is Dr. Dardik's interesting and I'd say elegant theory. I do not agree entirely, I can't after going into the Mind Portal, which sort of blasted my mind with visions I can only try to explain- in particular, a frozen and unchanging Universe that underlies this motion wave Universe that we know or at least observe. Still, his description of the Relative half is worth including; its a fun read!

SUPERWAVE REALITY
By Dr. Irving Dardik

Adapted from Dardik, I (2005). Superwave reality. In J. P. Biberian (Ed.) Condensed matter nuclear science (pp. 81-83).

Singapore: World Scientific Publishing Company.

Here I present the elegant reality that is the natural universe. All existence is waves – only waves. This entirely new understanding of waves – what I call SuperWaves – is the single universality that generates the entire natural universe of motion, of order and of matter, space, and time. SuperWaves is not a theoretical model or mathematical law about nature; nor is it a hidden reality within nature; it is the simple reality that is nature1-4

1. Motion is SuperWaves

All motion and all changes are only waves. To create complex features in an existence that is comprised only of waves, waves must wave. All changes are changing. Waves do not move in straight lines. Waves move only within waves and contain waves, as an inherent continuum of wave motion in wave motion. This new understanding of waves as SuperWaves is an entirely new understanding of motion. Constant uniform, or linear, motion does not and cannot exist. Waves, which are in motion on one scale, are in motion, moving up and down on another scale. This is an innate continuum of waves waving, of nested scales within scales, unbroken fractals within fractals.

Linear frequencies, linear amplitudes, and linear interference patterns of superposition do not exist because nature is SuperWaves. Rather, in SuperWaves, smaller waves repeat in non-linear changing frequencies, climbing up and down the trajectory of the larger waves, In turn, the larger wave is moving with its own progressively changing frequencies and amplitudes within a yet larger wave – ad infinitum. Frequencies and amplitudes can now be recognized as existing as a seamless continuum, generating in all directions within and across scales.

2. SuperWaving Motion is Order

The order of nature exists because of the unbroken fractal order of SuperWaves. Towards the peak of the carrier wave, spiraling waves are accelerating and are most concentrated. The peak contains the highest SuperWaving frequencies and amplitudes of inner waves, whose synchrony and stability is maintained at a maximum by the peak of the carrier wave. The reverse occurs toward the trough of the carrier wave; the frequencies and amplitudes of the inner waves decrease; they spread out and disperse in all directions as change and become relatively unstable, more susceptible to perturbation. As SuperWaves are the stuff of nature and as SuperWaves are intrinsically self-similar, we can now understand why nature is fractal in form, at all scales. Nature exhibits only relative degrees or order; absolute chaos does not exist.

The puzzle of action at a distance, or non-locality, is explained by the SuperWave order of nature. A change in the form of a carrier wave will cause changes in the form of inner waves, simultaneously within and across scales. The reverse occurs as well. Changes of inner waves can simultaneously change the form and shape of the carrier wave, depending on the degree of stability of the inner and outer waves. I call this simulcausality.

Science has looked for absolute causality, or determinism, but has failed to find it. Redefining action at a distance as simulcausality explains this failure. The reason is that the waves waving are always changing, never being precisely circular or linear; as they are continuously influencing each other, they cause further change. Nature exhibits no invariance or absolute constancy. This explains why all linear measurements are inexact and approximate, and ultimately exhibit non-linear complexity.

Science separates frequencies and amplitudes as linear dimensions, and then superimposes them to explain interference patterns. From the perspective of SuperWaves, interference patterns are explained by the inherent (non-linear) continuum of amplitude, and frequency, which is the same phenomenon as action at a distance and causality, which is simulcausality. This unbroken fractal motion of SuperWaves generates the order of nature.

3. The Order of Superwaving Motion is Matter, Space, and Time

The compression of waves in the peaks of SuperWaves exhibit confined stability which manifests as matter, at all scales. At the smallest scale, matter is the confined compressed wave packet, termed a particle. At higher and higher scales of SupeWaves, the compression of clusters creates the stability that is an atom, a molecule, an organism, an ecosystem, Earth, the Solar System, our galaxy, galaxy clusters, to the whole universe itself. At each scale, SuperWaves organize and bring relative coherence to the inner waves, in seamless fractally nested jumps – this is relative order. Conversely, the gaps between particles or object masses that we presently perceive as space are regions of SuperWaves dispersion – this is relative disorder. Matter and space are therefore different manifestations of the same SuperWave continuum; this applies to matterspace on all scales.

The forces of nature – the weak and strong forces, electromagnetism, and gravity – are also manifestations of SuperWaves. Gravity and the strong force are the attractor peaks of carrier waves manifesting as matter, with gravity being at a higher SuperWaving scale than the strong force, fractals of each other. The weak force and electromagnetism are also fractals of each other, being the repulsion or dispersal of waves which is space.

The understanding of SuperWaves gives a new understanding of how organization comes about in nature. Matter is described above as the relatively stable compression of waves at the peak of a SuperWave. The process of waves waving within waves, moving toward the peak in an inherent continuum of scalar jumps, is what science calls the emergence and evolution of organizational order. The process of dispersal and flattening of SuperWaves, also occurring as inherent continuous jumps, manifests as Cartesian order of parts and what science calls thermodynamic entropy. Just as evolution and entropy are processes of change as a result of moving towards and away from the peak, so too is time the outcome of waves waving. Waves waving is change, the irreversible process that is time. Time is perceived differently, depending locally on the scale of waves waving. SuperWaves is matterspace is time.

4. Conclusion

Science has perceived nature to be a universe of matter in motion, governed by mathematical laws of order. In reality, nature is SuperWaves, whose motion is the order of the universe that is matterspacetime. The recognition of the SuperWave universe allows for the investigation and understanding of the individual parts in the true context of their indivisible collective wholeness. The scientific, mathematical laws of nature are in fact partial abstractions to a linear ideal of the true SuperWaving order present in different scales of the universe.

SuperWaves provides a new understanding of how to go about understanding the universe. The received understanding of the universe is that it is too complicated to understand all at once. Therefore, the scientific method is forced to try to understand nature piece by piece. In other words, science treats nature as if it were discontinuous. Investigating nature form this perspective means that inherent continuity cannot be identified. However, from the perspective of SuperWaves, the universe is recognized as being seamlessly and exclusively a wave universe in which everything is connected to, and affects, everything else all at once while everything is changing. This order, the inherently continuous pattern of motion, is the true indivisibility (a-tomos) of nature. The universe is the manifestation of this order, neither random nor uncertain. The recognition of the SuperWave universe allows for the investigation and understanding of the individual parts in the true context of their indivisible collective wholeness.

The universe is ultimately not a material universe. In reality the universe is a motion universe, where matter is a consequence of wave motion. How the universe works is what the universe is made of. What remains to be understood is a new recognition of all accumulated and future knowledge in light of SuperWaves. So I begin here by going back to the beginning of all our thinking, all our understanding about the nature of the universe. The true reality that is the universe is SuperWaves.


http://dardik-institute.org/theory.asp

Now...I imagine comes the question...how is this related? I will let you ask before I answer this in more detail.

Hum.. ok, waves of what ?
I'm sorry but the article comes off as a lot of babble, and no mention of evidence..

And I'm am going to ask another question. How is this related to DNA changing 3.000.000 times a second ?
 
Hum.. ok, waves of what ?
I'm sorry but the article comes off as a lot of babble, and no mention of evidence..

And I'm am going to ask another question. How is this related to DNA changing 3.000.000 times a second ?

OK...if matter is condensed light as the theory of relativity says it is, and light is composed of waves, then all matter is composed of waves as well. Then there are gravity waves and brain waves and more, I could go on listing the waves and produce a very long list. Can you tell me what isn't composed of waves?

Next, I will have to get back to the next question tomorrow, as time is running out for today (as I said, I am dealing with more limits then ever before), and I still need to write a Trecena Report. Give it some...time.

Cheers,
Jozen-Bo
:)
 
OK...if matter is condensed light as the theory of relativity says it is, and light is composed of waves, then all matter is composed of waves as well. Then there are gravity waves and brain waves and more, I could go on listing the waves and produce a very long list. Can you tell me what isn't composed of waves?

Next, I will have to get back to the next question tomorrow, as time is running out for today (as I said, I am dealing with more limits then ever before), and I still need to write a Trecena Report. Give it some...time.

Cheers,
Jozen-Bo
:)

I'm not sure the theory of relativity says that though, I might just be ignorant of it though. Link ?

Ok, good luck :)
 
I went over to a DNA molecular biology forums to ask this question. Its a done deal, DNA changes and mutates, end of story!
 
DNA does not mutate at the rate you proposed. The question in the OP (does DNA change) is pretty much a straw man, as it is clear that DNA undergoes changes. However you (Jozen-Bo) seems to be quite confused regarding the mechanism of DNA mutation, conformation changes and molecule interactions, as well the consequences of these.
 
I went over to a DNA molecular biology forums to ask this question. Its a done deal, DNA changes and mutates, end of story!

Of course it does. But not at the rate you said. I think you really are confusing mutation with degrees of freedom of a molecule.
 
Of course it does. But not at the rate you said. I think you really are confusing mutation with degrees of freedom of a molecule.

I thought this was said on the first page, shouldn't this thread have ended there?
 
I'd say our DNA as a species is going downhill, when people smoke, it modifies their DNA, when they drink, it also places new chemicals into the DNA strands, and I believe that when we eat foods with certain preservatives, that too degrades our DNA. I believe that some of these DNA mutations are passed down to children, thus, we may be permanently messing up our future. On the other hand, DNA may one day be fully customizable with new technology, so perhaps we can figure a way to fix these problems. Who will you trust to "fix" your DNA? lol
 
I'm sorry I missed this thread. Jozen-Bo reads to me like the new Happeh.
 
DNA does not mutate at the rate you proposed. The question in the OP (does DNA change) is pretty much a straw man, as it is clear that DNA undergoes changes. However you (Jozen-Bo) seems to be quite confused regarding the mechanism of DNA mutation, conformation changes and molecule interactions, as well the consequences of these.

:shrug:
I might add that You (CharonZ) seem to give no exact reason as to why you (CharonZ) say that. You haven't backed yourself up with any precision. Will you point out the exact area of this confusion as you (CharonZ) understand it?
 
Of course it does. But not at the rate you said. I think you really are confusing mutation with degrees of freedom of a molecule.

What was the rate I said? Restatement please!
 
*sigh* I know that I am just prolonging this useless thread, but here it goes.
J-B said:
DNA changes approximately 3,000,000 times per a second (SCIENTIFIC FACT
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As about everyone else here already mentioned, DNA information does not change at this rate. Also I did not think that I needed to give a reason why to state what I stated. It was not me who confused terms and made a mess out of them.
Maybe we should try to define things a bit here. No molecule is static and due to the form of the DNA it also can undergo conformational changes. However, genetic information is stored in the sequence of bases, which will not be changed by conformation changes. Changes are usually associated with a polymerization step, as e.g. during DNA repair or replication, which occurs at a far slower rate.
 
*sigh* I know that I am just prolonging this useless thread, but here it goes.
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As about everyone else here already mentioned, DNA information does not change at this rate. Also I did not think that I needed to give a reason why to state what I stated. It was not me who confused terms and made a mess out of them.
Maybe we should try to define things a bit here. No molecule is static and due to the form of the DNA it also can undergo conformational changes. However, genetic information is stored in the sequence of bases, which will not be changed by conformation changes. Changes are usually associated with a polymerization step, as e.g. during DNA repair or replication, which occurs at a far slower rate.

You are completely wrong! Funny! I expected you to point something else out, because this is utter nonsense. I figured elsewhere there might be something, but you are trying to debase one of the most solid and easy to defend and obvious things. You are confused here, not me!
 
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