so when were dead we are dead?? creepy! How do you have peace with that lol.
Well, for starters,
it doesn't matter whether you make peace with it or not. You're still going to be dead some day.
The universe doesn't care about you. You are just one more blob of matter and all the natural laws of the universe apply to you just like they apply to all other blobs of matter. Don't be overcome with human hubris.
I find it creepy and uncomfortable to think its just the end.
Why is this any more uncomfortable than the fact that our lives have a beginning? The universe is full of balance. We begin, we end, that's balance. The earth is going to die, the sun is going to die, it seems very likely that the universe itself is going to die. Once again,
what makes you think we're so special that we should be exempt from what happens to everything else in the universe? That little glimmer in our brain pan that we call "consciousness"? There's good (but not yet convincing) evidence that all mammals and birds have some degree of consciousness. Are they exempt from all the natural laws too?
Perhaps i could understand coming to terms with accepting its the end to all. However,were is the proof to that?
You need to understand the scientific method. You're the one proposing the extraordinary hypothesis that humans are in some way different from every other object in the universe. So you're the one who must supply the extraordinary substantiation for it before we are even required to take you seriously. "Extraordinary assertions require extraordinary substantiation."
And please stop talking about "proof." Scientific theories are never proven true, all we do is reduce the probability of them ever being proven false to the point that we're comfortable integrating them into the scientific canon. Some of our theories will be proven false, but so few that it won't upset the canon as a whole.
did you the link above?? it proposed a very good opposing argument,evaluating both sides.
It was not "very good." It was full of supernatural aspects. The fundamental premise of science is that the natural universe is a closed system whose behavior can be predicted by theories derived logically from empirical observation of its past and present behavior. This premise is a theory itself and it is recursive: It has been tested and peer-reviewed for about 500 years and it has not been disproved. Any hypothesis that stipulates an unobservable supernatural universe is by its very nature antiscientific: it essentially tells us to give up on science and accept the existence of the supernatural,
which can never be tested by the scientific method so it must be taken on faith. Faith has no place here since this is a place of science and it is ruled by reason.
I'm just reading this seperation from mind and body and science has yet to prove there is no separation,i mean the evidence that it does exist is astounding
The evidence is not scientific evidence, it is not based on empirical observation of the natural universe. It is not up to science to disprove it because it is an extraordinary assertion. It is up to the asserter to present extraordinary substantiation for this hypothesis before anyone needs to take it seriously.
Did you read the above?? The conscious awareness article??
It is just as unscientific, or downright antiscientific, as the first one. It is founded on assertions concerning a supernatural universe.
I just need someone to discredit this,or come to the forefront proving it does not exist.
No, you've got it backwards. YOU need to come forward wiith extraordinary substantiation for your extraordinary assertion. You're not just saying you've discovered a new species of beetle on a mountain in Africa that has never before been visited by scientists. That is not an extraordinary assertion. You're saying that the canon of science, which has been painstakingly assembled by thousands of people using rigorous methods over half a millennium, and which has been aggressively tested and peer-reviewed without ever being disproved,
is wrong. That IS an extraordinary assertion.
What's creepy about that ??
