Black market criminals tend to vote Republican, in the US. Organized crime is generally conservative, politically.wellwisher said:As a logical analysis so we can do the math; one can get anything you want in the black market. If guns were made illegal, you could still get guns in the black market. Since the black market is more frequented by criminals, than honest citizens, and black market criminals tend to vote Democrat, then making guns illegal favors the democrat party.
Gun confiscation from citizens is as likely to be proposed by right wing authoritarians in the US (police, the imposers of martial law, the auxiliary forces such as Blackwater after Katrina, the enforcers of Jim Crow and similar legislation, etc) as left wing authoritarians.
You trivialize depression and suicide by such cavalier treatment. As the numbers you have posted make clear, suicides are seldom impulsive in that shallow way you fantasize - remember the posted stat showing that suicides by gun rise in the weeks immediately after gun purchase?fraggle said:But if they have to do it by slashing their wrists in a tub full of warm water, or figuring out how to make a hangman's noose, or finding a roof tall enough to jump from, they'll have a reasonable amount of time to consider their plan and decide that they were having a bad day and it might be okay to see what happens tomorrow. But if a person has a fucking goddamned GUN in his desk drawer, it's all over in a minute or two, giving no chance for reflection.
Suicides in the US normally obtain and maintain guns to commit suicide with, in preparation, much as they learn to make nooses or breathe gas, arrange times and places they will not be interrupted, give away valued possessions, find the best place on the best bridge or building to jump off, choose the place and circumstances of their car crash, etc. A person who is not planning to kill themselves with their gun is at very little risk of impulsively doing so. That ain't how it happens.
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