Should science replace religion?

wegs said:
lol :D

Learn something new everyday on SF!
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Well the reason I remember this is that I actually once had a boss (at Shell) who was a bullshitter in the Frankfurt sense. It took us in the team over a year to stop being amazed by him. He would make sh1t up in meetings with senior people and then we would have to work out how to either make what he said real, or somehow unwind the position he had got us into.

Remind you of anyone? I tell you, the sense of déjà vu I get these days is uncanny. :rolleyes:
 
Seattle said:
That was their big mistake back in the late Reagan and early Bush years, religion trying to have more influence by becoming political.
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Since the majority (although shrinking) of citizens in the US claim to be Christian, they should turn back to their Bible:

Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

Part of the problem with the westernized version of Christianity, is that many Christians have never read the Bible, they've simply inherited a label from their family line, etc. So, they'll argue with non-Christians defending their beliefs, but do they even know why they believe what they believe?
 
wegs said:
Since the majority (although shrinking) of citizens in the US claim to be Christian, they should turn back to their Bible:

Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."

Part of the problem with the westernized version of Christianity, is that many Christians have never read the Bible, they've simply inherited a label from their family line, etc. So, they'll argue with non-Christians defending their beliefs, but do they even know why they believe what they believe?
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No, of course not. That's why they have all those Bible study groups, to make sense out of nonsense.
 
exchemist said:
they see no conflict
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Or, they may be just ignoring the conflict.

exchemist said:
Almost nothing, in most religions, is to do with providing an explanatory account of the physical world,
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Isn't that what Genesis is, an account of the physical world? Isn't it also the crux of Creationists point to have Creationism taught alongside if not precluding evolution and abiogenesis in schools?
 
Jeeves said:
So... no Jews? No mumbo-jumbo about Destiny or world domination...
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The people considered inferior were Jews; the Nazis wrote tomes on the topic. (I assume you know this and are just doing the "intentionally obtuse" thing on purpose.)
it was just a breeding program driven by scientific curiosity
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It was a breeding program to achieve a political goal, couched in a branch of science.
 
wegs said:
Part of the problem with the westernized version of Christianity, is that many Christians have never read the Bible, they've simply inherited a label from their family line, etc. So, they'll argue with non-Christians defending their beliefs, but do they even know why they believe what they believe?
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Indeed, it has been my experience that the more fervently an evangelical Christian argues on-line, the less likely they are to have read the Bible.
 
billvon said:
Indeed, it has been my experience that the more fervently an evangelical Christian argues on-line, the less likely they are to have read the Bible.
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It's also probably true that the more one has read the Bible the less religious they will become. As the say, the surest way to becoming an atheist is to go to and complete seminary. :)
 
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Seattle said:
It's also probably true that the more one has read the Bible the less religious that will become.
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From my experience people who do so become either less or more religious. I knew some priests and brothers in high school who were as religious as they come - and knew far more about the Bible than I did (or do.) And some, of course, left the order.
 
Goldtop said:
So, the Bible is all myth? God is myth? Or, just Genesis?
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It's a written and much-translated version of an oral history that goes back over 4000 years. Much of it is myth or half-true, vaguely remembered history. The flood story is a good example.
 
billvon said:
It's a written and much-translated version of an oral history that goes back over 4000 years. Much of it is myth or half-true, vaguely remembered history. The flood story is a good example.
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Since the Bible is myth or half-true, where's the literature that causes some to believe in a God?
 
Seattle said:
Since the Bible is myth or half-true, where's the literature that causes some to believe in a God?
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I guess that has a different answer for everyone - especially since far less than half the religious people on the planet use the Bible as a sacred text to begin with.
 
billvon said:
If you like, you can do that.
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Sure, but that wouldn't mean much. We would all need to do that for it to mean something. What more is it than an apron string to the past that no longer applies. Sometimes, you just gotta let go.
 
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