Should Christianity adopt Islam’s laws of sins of the flesh?

[Greatest I am]

I'm talking about being inherently and instinctually correct. The only purpose rules serve is to protect against wrongdoing. I want to eliminate the inclination for wrongdoing, not create new rules to deal with the same old problems.

Imo religion and govt are like pills that suppress or treat the symptoms of our illness. I want the cure.

We are evolving creatures. All that we can do is either compete or cooperate. Without both options we would go extinct.

You want the unnatural thing of only cooperating/doing good, without the other component that put us here, competition/doing evil.

Have you not noticed that the ancients knew this and that is why they say we are born sinners.

It is natural for us to sin or do evil which is compete.
Our task is to control the damage. Not change evolution. Changing evolution is impossible.

You say you chat with Jesus, LOL.

Ask him why he created evil and listen to him say that it is necessary for mankind. If not, ask him how to end it.

Regards
DL

 

[Lori_7]

Majority rules. If you want to change rules, you need the majority. Eventually that is.
It begins with one so all of us are important to the common but you have to get the common to accept the one's rules.

Regards
DL

This isn't intellectually sound imo. This really isn't how our society works, and it isn't the way evolution works either.

 

[Lori_7]

We are evolving creatures. All that we can do is either compete or cooperate. Without both options we would go extinct.

You want the unnatural thing of only cooperating/doing good, without the other component that put us here, competition/doing evil.

Have you not noticed that the ancients knew this and that is why they say we are born sinners.

It is natural for us to sin or do evil which is compete.
Our task is to control the damage. Not change evolution. Changing evolution is impossible.

You say you chat with Jesus, LOL.

Ask him why he created evil and listen to him say that it is necessary for mankind. If not, ask him how to end it.

Regards
DL

i have asked him that and this is how he explained it...

that there's a duality inherent in creation. something/nothing, life/death, light/dark, love/hate, and it goes on, and these are possibilities that we choose from according to law. and we don't have to choose nothing, death, dark, hate...

that's how to end it.

 

[spidergoat]

I see.

So the last thing we ever want to do is control our passions.

Hell no. We should not work at disciplining and controlling ourselves. Sigh.

Men think with their dicks and we do not want to change that wonderful quality.

Regards
DL

There is nothing wrong with expressing your sexuality. Sometimes control is required, but we don't need a book to tell us when. These rules were invented by men! In Islam, you don't even have to get a young girl to fall in love with you, they are just granted into your possession.

 

[S.A.M.]

In Islam, you don't even have to get a young girl to fall in love with you, they are just granted into your possession.

???? How is that? Islam is probably the only religion where the bride is not "given away" by a male relative, but must accept that she is willing to marry a man based on his ability to pay her bride price [called mehr which is paid by the groom to the bride before the wedding - the priest/celebrant will ask if she has received her mehr during the wedding ceremony] and whose property does not automatically become the property of her husband, even though the husband's property becomes her's - a wife automatically inherits her husband's property

What are the laws in other religions?

 

[Greatest I am]

There is nothing wrong with expressing your sexuality. Sometimes control is required, but we don't need a book to tell us when. These rules were invented by men! In Islam, you don't even have to get a young girl to fall in love with you, they are just granted into your possession.

Sometimes---?---Goof.

As to arranged marriages. Those are cultural idioms. Some have religious motivation, some political.

If those in those communities do not want it, most can opt out. This is not just a trait of Islam but of many of the older religions and cultures as well.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

This isn't intellectually sound imo. This really isn't how our society works, and it isn't the way evolution works either.

As usual, you disagree without showing the error.

Nice intellectually sound way to discuss and issue.

That's ok though. Most of what you write is garbage.

Regards
DL

 

[Lori_7]

As usual, you disagree without showing the error.

Nice intellectually sound way to discuss and issue.

That's ok though. Most of what you write is garbage.

Regards
DL

the error is obvious, and so are you.

 

[spidergoat]

Sometimes---?---Goof.

As to arranged marriages. Those are cultural idioms. Some have religious motivation, some political.

If those in those communities do not want it, most can opt out. This is not just a trait of Islam but of many of the older religions and cultures as well.

Regards
DL

Opt out? LOL. Sure if you want your nose cut off.

 

[YoYoPapaya]

I see a lot of hate on Islam from you Spidergoat.

Do you think it is the religion that is to blame for these horrible things that we read are done to some women (careful with generalisations)?

I think that other things are far more important, when it comes to using primitive justice systems. Secularisation, personal freedom and average level of (real) education.

I don't think that Islam is more to blame for crimes against humanity than other religions or that Islam is somehow a "worse" or "more primitive" religion. All big religions have horrible track records.

 

[spidergoat]

Yes I hate Islam, and no I don't think it's that much worse than the other religions on paper, but most other religions have had the mitigating effects of the enlightenment and secular government. Let's not forget what they were responsible for when they were in power.

 

[YoYoPapaya]

Ok just making sure.