Should atheism be recognised?

Should atheism be recognised?

  • Yes, I want to be recognised for the stuff I don't believe in

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • No, its stupid to have a category for NOT believing in something

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Got better things to think about

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • My opinion, which is better than yours, is given in a post below

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    9
Just exchange religion with anything from history/sociology/psychology/culture/language/grammar/colour preference/sexual orientation etc in this insert

<insert your religion here>

These are positions held, not positions refuted.

A position refuted IS a position held. How does that escape your acutely razor sharp perception?
 
Because its not a negative position. They are protesting for the right to life. And against the murder of the unborn.

Then atheists petition for the right to life without religion, and against the brainwashing of our children.

Non-stamp collecting doesn't have much relevence, but since religion is such a big part of society, non-religion is a significant phenomenon. It's like the anti-drugs crowd, who advocate that you can have a good happy life without drugs. Atheists just advocate that you can have a good happy life without God.
 
A position refuted IS a position held. How does that escape your acutely razor sharp perception?



Its not, unless you have a position of your own. Not believing in UFOs requires a concept of UFOs to precede it. If you don't accept that concept you dont have a position.

Not being a pilot is not a position, being a pilot is.

Then atheists petition for the right to life without religion, and against the brainwashing of our children.

Thats as silly as joining a book club to protest against reading books. If you don't want to read, don't.
 
That's valid, but the fact is religious groups encroach on our right to be free from religion, therefore an advocacy group is necessary.
 
That's valid, but the fact is religious groups encroach on our right to be free from religion, therefore an advocacy group is necessary.

And stamp collectors encroach on your right to be free of stamps.

But why should they care?
 
Stamp collectors do not encroach on my right to be free of stamps. Stamp collecting isn't a significant political force.
 
Stamp collectors do not encroach on my right to be free of stamps. Stamp collecting isn't a significant political force.

Thats only because everyone accepts stamps. Wait till an anti-stamp collector advocacy group comes out. The Franks have been a minority so far.

But the question remains. Why should stamp collectors care about what nonstamp collectors think about stamps?
 
Now you are being silly. Stamp collecting holds few implications about how we live our lives. The Atheist position is not only anti-religion but usually pro-science, pro-rationality, pro-secularism, pro-personal freedom.
 
Why should stamp collectors care about what nonstamp collectors think about stamps?

They probably don't. Most likely, because stamp collectors don't demand we place stamps above all else, even the law. Stamp collectors don't riot in the streets if their stamps are criticized.
 
Sorry, atheists don't speak for me.:shrug:

And you as a Muslim, do not speak for us agnostics (or athiests).

Which is why it's pissing me off with you and your 'holier than thou' attitude.

But the question remains. Why should stamp collectors care about what nonstamp collectors think about stamps?
This isn't about stamp collectors or non stamp collectors. It's about atheism, which has fucking nothing to do with stamp collecting.

Its not, unless you have a position of your own. Not believing in UFOs requires a concept of UFOs to precede it. If you don't accept that concept you dont have a position.

Not being a pilot is not a position, being a pilot is.
It is. And besides, Athiesm IS a position.
You don't hear an athiest say 'I'm a non-believer' when you ask them, do you? NO! They say that they are an athiest.
A 'non-pilot' or 'non-stamp collector' really isn't, and you should really come up with some better examples to compare this too. Non stamp collectors and non pilots just aren't cutting it, my dear.
 
And why should I care for the atheist position?

As a theist, why shouldn't my eyes glaze over when atheists come ranting?
 
It doesn't matter if you do or not. Theism is not dependent on atheism. Its vice versa.
Apparently it does or you wouldn't have started a thread on it.

As long as theism is going to be recognized, atheism will too.
You can either sit there and whine and bitch about it like you are right now, or you can do the best thing and STFU and just let it be.
 
Please try and follow your own narrative if you can.
spidergoat said:
Stamp collecting holds few implications about how we live our lives
sam said:
spidergoat said:
Everyone.
sam said:
Sorry, atheists don't speak for me.

So, I'm saying that religion holds implications about how everyone lives our lives. Doesn't religion hold any implications about how you live your life? I'm sure it does. Therefore your response makes no logical sense.


And why should I care for the atheist position?

As a theist, why shouldn't my eyes glaze over when atheists come ranting?
Take it or leave it, do whatever you want!
 
Please try and follow your own narrative if you can.

So, I'm saying that religion holds implications about how everyone lives our lives. Doesn't religion hold any implications about how you live your life? I'm sure it does. Therefore your response makes no logical sense.

Yeah, but I don't need atheists to speak for my religion and what implications it holds for my life.

Apparently it does or you wouldn't have started a thread on it.

As long as theism is going to be recognized, atheism will too.
You can either sit there and whine and bitch about it like you are right now, or you can do the best thing and STFU and just let it be.

No, I'm just wondering. Personally, I just find it odd that when atheists sit and whine and bitch I'm supposed to care about it.
 
Yeah, but I don't need atheists to speak for my religion and what implications it holds for my life.
Nor do we need theists telling us what we should and shouldn't believe, how we should and shouldn't act.
Trust me, there are a lot of stupid ass laws down here in the back asswards south due to Christianity crap.

Why should people be recognized for something they believe in anymore than somone for what they don't believe in?

Sam, you make no sense when you talk about politics or religion.
 
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