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Shooting at CANADIAN School!?
- Thread starter TruthSeeker
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Baron Max said:So you're judging all Americans by the actions of only a few? Hmm, if I said the same thing about blacks, what you say?
Baron Max
I would say you are a racist.
Baron Max said:What I can't believe is that he/they apparently had automatic weapons and shot numerous rounds ......and I think only killed one person! He must have been the lousiest marksman on the face of the planet!! ...maybe even in the entire Universe!
And lest ya'll forget .....there were some 65 Iragis that were tortured and killed by Iraqi insurgents, so that should put this all in a bit of perspective. The Montreal shootings weren't such a big deal in comparison, huh?
Oops ...or are Canadians more important than Iraqis????????
Baron Max
Baron Max
I'm guessing this guy was a victim of bullying, years of bullying.
Honestly, he is a terrorist, if terrorist has a definition, this is a perfect example of terrorist. If they arrested him and he's still alive, he should be treated like a member of Al Qaeda.
Baron Max said:So you're judging all Americans by the actions of only a few? Hmm, if I said the same thing about blacks, what you say?
Baron Max
Welcome to the real world, yeah that's right, foreigners almost universally hate us just because we were born American.
Ever stop to think why?TimeTraveler said:Welcome to the real world, yeah that's right, foreigners almost universally hate us just because we were born American.
Destroyer said:Its a culture problem in the US, not a law problem. Just look at Hollywood movies. After all, the Swiss all have guns practically, but don't seem to have the same problems as the US.
It's not culture, it's simple. American's are violent just like every other country and it has nothing to do with culture. There are violent individuals in every country, there are immoral ruthless types in all countries. It's simple, this guy was a predator, he hunted people. You think only American's did that? Read a history book.
spuriousmonkey said:In fact. Americans are too irresponsible to own a gun. No american should have a gun.
Would you give a gun to a nut? No.
I agree. Guns should be banned in the USA. Gun lovers are psychopaths.
TimeTraveler said:It's not culture, it's simple. American's are violent just like every other country and it has nothing to do with culture. There are violent individuals in every country, there are immoral ruthless types in all countries. It's simple, this guy was a predator, he hunted people. You think only American's did that? Read a history book.
No, you are more violent.
redarmy11 said:Ever stop to think why?
If the world does not like America why do you keep giving all the power to the same people? The world has selected our business leaders. It was Europe that chose to support say, Microsoft Windows.
The European consumers are the ones buying up all the gangster RAP 50cent CDs, it's not like American's buy it up anymore, most of the movies, music, clothes, etc are all sold to Europeans, Japanese, and so on.
So we do not control what you buy, or who you support. We are consumers just like you, and there are different factions in America that Europeans ignore. America is a huge country, the size of several EU countries, if you think America all agrees with itself, that is ridiculous. 60% of this country disagree's with the direction, the 30% that agrees with the direction still are not satisfied with the results. Americans hate Americans, European's hate Americans, and having a hate fest solves what?
Yes there are bad people, but not all Americans are bad, and when you fail to tell the difference between good and bad, how are you any different from the American who thinks the same way?
It does not matter what Jersey you wear, or what sport you represent, people are people, and they come in different personalities and characters, and these personalities and characters express themselves globally, not in one country at a time.
America happens to have all the money and guns so America is the center of attention, but it's not like bad people only exist in America. Also what about the good people who exist in America who get ignored by the world?
TimeTraveler said:Also what about the good people who exist in America who get ignored by the world?
Like who? Name one.
cool skill said:Guns should be illegal.
Everybody in Switzerland has guns.
People think they are pretty gay for being a neutral country, but they are armed to the teeth, and are required to participate in armed training.
Making guns illegal is naive and stupid. You'll just help the criminals take over and run your country.
TimeTraveler said:Making guns illegal is naive and stupid. You'll just help the criminals take over and run your country.
In Europe we have police to deal with criminals.
spuriousmonkey said:In Europe we have police to deal with criminals.
So the smart criminals become the police. Then how do you deal with criminals?
How exactly can you survive in the wild west, assuming the world is a jungle, if you don't have a gun of your own?
Yes you might have police, but the criminals can hire police just as easily as you can, and because criminals don't worry about laws, their police will be better armed than yours. Do you get it now?
spuriousmonkey said:In Europe we have police to deal with criminals.
Let me put it in a language that you, as a racist, can understand. If the police were black, would you give them all your guns and feel safer?
TimeTraveler said:So the smart criminals become the police. Then how do you deal with criminals?
How exactly can you survive in the wild west, assuming the world is a jungle, if you don't have a gun of your own?
Yes you might have police, but the criminals can hire police just as easily as you can, and because criminals don't worry about laws, their police will be better armed than yours. Do you get it now?
In a civilized country the police corruption is minimal. You fail to see that Americans are not like all people, and all people are not like americans. You don't even think it is a strange idea that the police is corrupt. I would have to ask you from which banana-republic you are from, but apparently from the biggest one there is. The USA.
TimeTraveler said:Let me put it in a language that you, as a racist, can understand. If the police were black, would you give them all your guns and feel safer?
Sure. Unfortunately in the parts where I am from the police is actually a representation of the people. Therefore the police force is from a mixed background.
Unless they are americans of course. Then they shouldn't be allowed to go near guns.
spuriousmonkey said:In a civilized country the police corruption is minimal. You fail to see that Americans are not like all people, and all people are not like americans. You don't even think it is a strange idea that the police is corrupt. I would have to ask you from which banana-republic you are from, but apparently from the biggest one there is. The USA.
There has never been a country in existance with no corruption. NEVER. I am completely confused by you, you are a person who has absolute blind faith in authority, and not only this, but you also are a racist as well, which is a strange combination.
You are paranoid of blacks, but not paranoid of whites in authority? You should read some history books, even in the best of times there has always been corruption and organized crime. The mafias that exist, exist in every country. Curruption is a universal human trait, not a country based concept.
Do you actually believe there is no corruption in Europe?
He said minimal corruption, not no corruption.
spuriousmonkey said:Sure. Unfortunately in the parts where I am from the police is actually a representation of the people. Therefore the police force is from a mixed background.
Unless they are americans of course. Then they shouldn't be allowed to go near guns.
If the police represent the people, that's good, in America our police represent the people as well, but what you don't seem to understand is that criminals can do that too. Police can be bribed if there is enough money to do criminal activities. Public officials can be bribed. It has been this way since democracy and the republic was founded, the drug trade is not new, neither are any of the established criminal industries.
When it comes to something like police, criminals can hire their own security forces, or police, or just hire kids off the streets and form gangs and then through the gangs infiltrate police forces and finance elections and legit businesses.
The point is, by how the system is designed economically, criminals can make lots and lots of money. You might be a very honest individual, but when someone offers you a million dollar bribe to ignore the activities of your co-worker police officers, it's very difficult to turn down a lot of money, and even if you want to turn it down you might be afraid to.
The point is, in order to fight crime you need very good human intelligence and very good security technology, but you also need big guns. Should every civilian be able to get a gun? No, the civilian should get a backround and psychological exam, but I do think if a person is clearly not a criminal and can pass the checks they should have access to a gun.
I don't think kids should buy guns from walmart, but I'm not for gun control either. I grew up in a city with gun control and the result was the criminals all have guns, and the civilians are afraid of the criminals.