Sexual exploitation

quadraphonics said:
Yes they do - men expend quite a bit of time, energy, money and worry trying to live up to the "stud" ideal. Hence Viagra, penis-pumps, anti-sensation products, etc.

And you might be surprised how many women express pornological expectations towards males.

In a way, the women get the better end of this - it's a much simpler matter to remove some hair, than it is to get a bigger dick or develop workhorse stamina.
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And we all know it was a woman that invented the phrase "premature ejaculation". :p
 
It isn't just porn, it is pretty much normal in the North American society to consider hair anywhere but on a girl's head un-sexy...

Its true lol

I admit to expect girls to be shave and wax...I don't find anything wrong with that, certainly not evil or exploitative...

It is just my personal preference. I don't watch porn, but is just who I am. If girls want to attract me, then they better do a bit of work...
 
Anti-Flag said:
I think it can be personal preference, although it's frowned upon so I've yet to see anyone go against the grain.
I've never found a woman to be repellant when it does grow though, but I do wonder if that's something to do with pheromones and such. Or I just like hot and sweaty women. Yes, that's probably it.
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You must be Greek I have been told they like the natural woman odor
 
Orleander said:
she's not bitter about sex. She doesn't like porn and how today's young men expect women to be porn stars. Their expectations aren't realistic. (For some reason these men don't see themselves as having to be the same porn stars with skills and stamina. lol)

http://artofmanliness.com/2009/05/11/the-problem-with-porn/

....Porn creates unrealistic expectations in the minds of men about love and sex. In porn, the women are always hot and ready to go and have perfect airbrushed bodies. Best of all, the women don’t talk. Men don’t have to worry about nagging or having to interact with the women they view in magazines and videos. Men can just have their way them, and be done with it...
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Fair enough, but I would say that "romance" movies do a lot more to give people unrealistic expectations about what a real relationship is like.
 
Nasor said:
Fair enough, but I would say that "romance" movies do a lot more to give people unrealistic expectations about what a real relationship is like.
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forget the movies, have you ever read the books? talk about porn
 
Orleander said:
she's not bitter about sex. She doesn't like porn and how today's young men expect women to be porn stars. Their expectations aren't realistic. (For some reason these men don't see themselves as having to be the same porn stars with skills and stamina. lol)

http://artofmanliness.com/2009/05/11/the-problem-with-porn/

....Porn creates unrealistic expectations in the minds of men about love and sex. In porn, the women are always hot and ready to go and have perfect airbrushed bodies. Best of all, the women don’t talk. Men don’t have to worry about nagging or having to interact with the women they view in magazines and videos. Men can just have their way them, and be done with it...
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Which is as stupid as men clamoring for Lifetime TV to be banned because of its unrealistic portraits of men. You know what is a realistic portrait of men? We like a little porn.

I find it funny that her complaint is that she wants to change men so that men stop wanting to change women. What the men want is mostly a cosmetic change (though, I agree, unrealistic in some cases). What she wants is a psychological change coupled with changes in behavior. (Oh no! Men have a fantasy about women who don't nag!?!?? The horror... how would men know they are wrong?)

Someone should protest the unrealistic expectations she's placing on us guys. Personally, I feel like she thinks we were put on this Earth just to please her, emotionally.
 
Telemachus Rex said:
Which is as stupid as men clamoring for Lifetime TV to be banned because of its unrealistic portraits of men. You know what is a realistic portrait of men? We like a little porn...
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I agree.
And I don't really care if the men of today are growing up with an unexpected expectation of sex with women. They will either get smacked over the head with reality or end up masturbating alone
 
Orleander said:
I agree.
And I don't really care if the men of today are growing up with an unexpected expectation of sex with women. They will either get smacked over the head with reality or end up masturbating alone
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C'mon girls want to be fucked like porn stars. Maybe not as much as porn stars. I don't think it is fair to demonize a woman for liking sex, nor a man who does not. If your a charmer of a fella you can get any woman with few exceptions.
 
Dywyddyr said:
Nah, based on TV, movies, literature...

Maybe that should be classed as porn: unrealistic tripe passed off as reality. ;)
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Example: Jersey Shore. The stuff portrayed on television in America is gross. Im scared for the next generation, at this passe our lives are going to be one big orgy.
 
Orleander said:
true. Men called it 'finished'
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Quite right too.
arauca said:
You must be Greek I have been told they like the natural woman odor
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Just not their own women, but I can't blame them.
Asguard said:
forget the movies, have you ever read the books? talk about porn
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I was reading one of those dirty books the other day, about the sex starved pygmies of the southern malaysian desert.

Little women.

Orleander said:
I agree.
And I don't really care if the men of today are growing up with an unexpected expectation of sex with women. They will either get smacked over the head with reality or end up masturbating alone
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Exactly, the same thing that happens to women who watch too many hollywood movies about how they can have everything including the perfect guy. No wonder there's so many single mums these days!

But then again, it's far easier to find a dirty slut.
 
Orleander said:
I agree.
And I don't really care if the men of today are growing up with an unexpected expectation of sex with women. They will either get smacked over the head with reality or end up masturbating alone
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One of those "failed expectations" I have observed lately is the reason why we lose half our football team every year right after our first game...

There are always losers that tryout for the status symbol and think they'll get laid for each touchdown and be studs instantly or something...
 
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