during the latest epiosode of a TV show called Q&A Melinda Tankard Reist (Anti porn activist) made a comment about boys and men expecting women to be shaven as being evil and exploitative. Concidering the comments previously made HERE by people like Orleander (as far as i can remeber) about expecting her partner to have his forskin surgically removed inorder to be concidered "normal" i found that comment to be shocking. Surly shaving off hair is a much less important thing than having your genitals mutilated and having the nerves it containes destroyed
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Does she have any proof that men expect that? (not that it's in any way evil or exploitative).
A lot of women do it to "feel good about themselves" apparently. Plus they expect the same of men. Not many people like flossing with pubes.
Sounds like the usual sexist bull from a feminazi tbh.
A lot of women do it to "feel good about themselves" apparently. Plus they expect the same of men. Not many people like flossing with pubes.
Sounds like the usual sexist bull from a feminazi tbh.
to be fair Q and A's format doesnt really alow for that, the questions are unscripted (they come from the audience) so its unlikly they would have referenced facts and figures on hand but i agree with you, all her answers were just a massive rant against human sexuality which was really sad actually. I wonder what horrible thing happened to her to make her so bitter about sex.
she's not bitter about sex. She doesn't like porn and how today's young men expect women to be porn stars. Their expectations aren't realistic. (For some reason these men don't see themselves as having to be the same porn stars with skills and stamina. lol)
http://artofmanliness.com/2009/05/11/the-problem-with-porn/
....Porn creates unrealistic expectations in the minds of men about love and sex. In porn, the women are always hot and ready to go and have perfect airbrushed bodies. Best of all, the women don’t talk. Men don’t have to worry about nagging or having to interact with the women they view in magazines and videos. Men can just have their way them, and be done with it...
http://artofmanliness.com/2009/05/11/the-problem-with-porn/
....Porn creates unrealistic expectations in the minds of men about love and sex. In porn, the women are always hot and ready to go and have perfect airbrushed bodies. Best of all, the women don’t talk. Men don’t have to worry about nagging or having to interact with the women they view in magazines and videos. Men can just have their way them, and be done with it...
It isn't to my husband
Sometimes it's not worth wondering what the fundies think.
She's full of sexist claptrap. Women expect a good night in the sack as much as any man - and they have no qualms admitting they'll dump you if you're not good. Why should men be different? The only reason it's less of a big deal for women is the plethora of sex toys available and the double standard that it's "empowering" for a woman, but pathetic for a man.
Human beings are unrealistic, about a great many things.
I certainly wish some women wouldn't talk and nag though, like the one in the OP.
Says you.
There was as study done last year that suggested since the explosion of porn, most men in fact do think women come groomed. As if waxed tata's are the norm.
NOTE: waxed tata's, Mmmmmmmm......
Says you.
There was as study done last year that suggested since the explosion of porn, most men in fact do think women come groomed. As if waxed tata's are the norm.
NOTE: waxed tata's, Mmmmmmmm......
Yeah, says me. And he has a reason why he doesn't like it.
and I guess what you are saying backs up what the woman in the OP says. That what men want in a woman has changed because of porn :shrug:
Porn explosion? That sounds.... interesting.
It's essentially a fashion thing, it was very different in the 70s and 80s. I can't say I understand the attraction to the pre-pubescent look. I was always lead to believe we had to wait until there was grass on the wicket before we could commence to play cricket.
and by the way Asgard, I think we may have all missed your point. Are you saying shaving and surgery are comparable?
I think expecting anything more than cleanliness from a partner is inappropriate.
And expecting a guy to cut some part of his body off...yeah, that's kinda sick.
And expecting a guy to cut some part of his body off...yeah, that's kinda sick.
but what do they have in common? Is shaving/waxing comparable to surgery?
I could see where demanding a boob job would be comparable to demanding a circumcision, but hair???
No, it's not. But demanding that someone add that to all the other rituals that women are expected to do to be suitably feminine is unfair. Actually it would be unfair even if we lived in a society where no such social norms existed. Asking someone else to modify themselves for you is inappropriate. I certainly wouldn't do it.
Oh HELL no!
My crazy ex used to shave, but she grew back really fast...and man, it was like putting my face in coarse-grit sandpaper more often than not.
I wasn't having that nice fun sensation of having my head pleasantly squeezed, I was getting ad hoc dermabrasion...
I had this awful prickly rash practically from ear to ear...
Five-o-clock shadow in the nether regions, oh no...
Besides, putting my hand in there was entirely too much like stuffing a turkey...as much fun as she was having, I kept thinking..."Where's the breadcrumbs?"
I prefer, at most, lightly-trimmed hedges, thanks.
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Particularly GenX (or is it GenY or GenKill?) anyway, kids who have grown up with internet porn, think grooming is normal (I mean over the top grooming).
As for me, I have to concur. At the very least, push a lawnmower through there, but, if possible, macadamia bees wax smells nice too
and NO, no one should be made to do anything they don't want to. But, some women like to wax. And, as a man, while there's no way we would dare run a razor near there *shudders* keeping the junk tidy is part and parcel with showering This is way too much informationOh HELL no!
My ex used to shave, but she grew back really fast...and man, it was like putting my face in coarse-grit sandpaper more often than not.
I had this awful abrasion rash practically from ear to ear...
Besides, putting my hand in there was entirely too much like stuffing a turkey...as much fun as she was having, I kept thinking..."Where's the breadcrumbs?"
I prefer, at most, lightly-trimmed hedges, thanks.
Good thing you dont live in france then isnt it