seriously!?

[Robittybob1]

I opened and it was the UPS guy, delivering my telescope. I set it up, conducted a search, and am now able to report that there is no Father in the Sky. I also checked Uranus, just in case Jesus meant, literally, patros en ouranois. (Being literal is such a relative thing, after all.)

I am also anxiously waiting for a parcel. You should check some other sunless places as well!

I know it is a rather odd thing to have in a book. I was amazed when I read it and did it. Like you can joke about it, but when you put jokes aside, it might not be the UPS.

 

[Aqueous Id]

When one party (in this case, you), tries to get the upper hand over the other, there can be only a debate, a competition, but never a discussion.

Nice demonstration of taking an upper-handed stance.

 

[wynn]

Nice demonstration of taking an upper-handed stance.

You are the one who started it.

 

[Balerion]

You are the one who started it.

So, you've graduated from simply running away whenever someone makes a point you can't counter, to feigning offense at some invented slight.

My little girl's growing up so fast! :bawl:

 

[Arioch]

@JDawg --

"Growing up" isn't exactly how I would describe it.

 

[Aqueous Id]

You are the one who started it.

It's OK, Darla, Panky says the cream pie fillin'll wash outta your hair.

Surely you jest. I bet you're having a blast, wiring folks up...you're probably in a bar taking bets on how many comebacks you can get per hour. (That's what I'm doing...nice gig, beats panhandling downtown.)

So much for sincerity.

 

[Michael]

The word is contemporaneous, not contemporary. Contemporary would be modern evidence, contemporaneous is evidence from that time. And we can debate this in another thread, but there are numerous biographies about him. He was involved in campaigns of war that people wrote about, he is as historical a figure as Alexander the Great.

RE: contemporaneous
I didn't know that thanks
Obviously any biographies are not contemporary. His were written 100s of years after his supposed life and death.

Mohammad supposed united the Arabia peninsula, these "cities" would have consisted of a few mud-brick "houses" and some tents - there's no good evidence these small cities even exited.
Khalid left no evidence, no coins minted for the war, every single site that has been excavated from that time period shows zero evidence of anything having had happened, no war, no change in peoples, nothing. NOTHING. Just Justinian's plague reoccurring over and over for a hundred years. No change in food, clothing, diet, pottery, trade.... nothing. Unlike where ANY other cities that had been conquered (example Greeks - you see change in traded items, food stock, pottery, coins, evidence of war, etc..). Alexander minted coins to fund his wars, he founded and built new cities (Alexandria), he left colonies of Greeks all over the place. None of this happened with Khalid OR Mohammad. Because, they did not exist. Here we have nothing at all. Nothing. Zero. And, most damning, one would think the Byzantine would have notified them that their Empire had been invaded - they don't!!

Now, COME ON
The Greeks, who have notes on how much poo is generated per day per cities, neglected to mention ANYWHERE in ANY of their writings that their Empire had been overrun.
Puuullleeeassssseeeeee.....
Yes, their empire did fall - it rotted itself to death (like us), and as it did people who lived in it carried on with their lives, local traditions and trade.

 

[Saturnine Pariah]

The truth of the matter is atheism has been around as long as christianity, if not longer. But it has never had natural selection on its side. It is sort of stuck as a minor subspecies, that lacks selective advantage. This opposite is true for Christianity with history showing natural selection.

According to evolutionary theory, breeding rates also reflect natural selection, with religion promoting breeding and atheism promoting abortion and birth control. Even at the unconscious level, nature has decided what is natural for selection, and what is unnatural and needs to be aborted.

I am applying evolution, which is accepted dogma of the atheists, which they don't realize is not flattering to them.

As far as Jesus or not, this belief did create a selective advantage for many humans as demonstrated by history. This was both as a whole and its many parts like England, France, Spain, Germany, as well as the USA.

The biggest atheism experiment of all times, was Stalinism, which did not work out too well, since atheism is paranoid and lacks tolerance. Unnatural selection was given a try, via force, but it self aborted due to natural selection. Once the old Soviet union was broken up ,the paranoid atheists dethroned, and religion restored, then there was prosperity. Now natural selection is natural again.

What have you been smoking and can i have some?:m puff, puff, pass) Are you trying to incorporate the discredited "god" gene, applying a biological process to man made system? Once again ( puff, puff, pass):m:

 

[Arioch]

@wellwisher --

You really shouldn't be speaking about evolutionary theory you know, you've demonstrated a rather startling ignorance of what the theory states many, many, many, many times already.

 

[Robittybob1]

@wellwisher --

You really shouldn't be speaking about evolutionary theory you know, you've demonstrated a rather startling ignorance of what the theory states many, many, many, many times already.

It may have sunk in by now?

 

[Arioch]

@Rob --

I doubt it. Wellwisher is one of those people who has his views of things and that's all he needs to know, everything else is either wrong or invisible to him.

 

[spidergoat]

Let's keep it simple: there is zero contemporary evidence Mohammad existed. None. Zilch.


If you have it, post it.

I have to apologize for my snarkiness in criticizing your use of the word contemporary. I have since discovered that your usage is perfectly correct.

 

[scorpius]

it's simply unreasonable to doubt Jesus's existence, considering the amount of people -of human history- who believe in his existence.

i know when you get too deep in atheism it gets hard to see, but it's so freaking unreasonable.

(- all of humanity believed the world was flat, doesn't change that it was reasonable to think so given the circumstances of that time. till we create a time machine to expose the myth of jesus, it's pretty dumb not to believe in him, and by dumb i mean preeeeeety dumb, uh, pardon the frankness.

-this isn't an ad populum)

yes it is
www.jesusneverexisted.com

 

[NMSquirrel]

simple argument..

if enough ppl told me that you existed, i would believe that you existed..