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An American came up to Shogun as said,

"Can I sit here?"

Shogun said,

"Sure," and moved over. The American sat down, he was a pilot from the USS Nimitz.
 
Shogun nodded politely and said,

"Hello,"

The american returned the greeting, he then extended his hand, of the arm that is not in a sling and cast.
 
Out of Game: My squadron will be going to advanced training, so we will be out of action for quite a while.
 
What if I attacked some of the planes on the ground near your base and you hope in one and try to shoot me down.
 
As in not win :D

Remember, this thing can out turn many different types of missiles let alone a fighter.
 
fedr808 said:
As in not win :D

Remember, this thing can out turn many different types of missiles let alone a fighter.
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Out of Game: Good luck, because I would have 3D Trust Vectoring and Fly by Optics :D You overrate the Su-47. Don't forget that the F-22 have greater climb rate. Don't forget the ATD-X's stealth either. And also, don't forget control surfaces.
 
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The SU-47 can outturn anything out there by virtue of it's wings. Thrust vectoring wouldnt compensate. The only advantage you have is in post stall maneuvers. And I do believe the production (not the concept aircraft) version SU-47 has thrust vectoring. The only advantage would be rangewise. Dont get close enough to let me turn into you.

Try and keep me at a distance, if you let me get too close you will lose. If you can keep me at range it will end up better for you.
 
fedr808 said:
The SU-47 can outturn anything out there by virtue of it's wings. Thrust vectoring wouldnt compensate. The only advantage you have is in post stall maneuvers. And I do believe the production (not the concept aircraft) version SU-47 has thrust vectoring. The only advantage would be rangewise. Dont get close enough to let me turn into you.

Try and keep me at a distance, if you let me get too close you will lose. If you can keep me at range it will end up better for you.
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Dude, it is not just trust vectoring, it is 3D Trust Vectoring. Control surfaces also help with the maneuvers. F-22 have also greater climb rate. Me and my squadron barely rely on turns, usually relies on post-stall maneuvers and other combat maneuvers.
 
I dont think the F-22 has better climb rates....

A forward-swept wing is an aircraft wing configuration in which the quarter-chord line of the wing has a forward sweep. The configuration was first proposed in 1936 by German aircraft designers.[1] Perceived benefits of a forward-swept wing design include

Mounting the wings further back on the fuselage, allowing for an unobstructed cabin or bomb bay, as the root of the wingbox will be located further aft, and
Increased maneuverability, due to airflow from wing tip to wing root preventing a stall of the wing tips and ailerons at high angle of attack. Instead, stall will rather occur in the region of the wing root on a forward-swept wing.
Possible drawbacks of a forward-swept wing include

When using a conventional metal construction: A reduced divergence speed or, in order to avoid this, an increased wing weight, as wing stiffness needs to be increased.
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The swept-forward wing, compared to a swept-back wing of the same area, provides a number of advantages:

higher lift-to-drag ratio
higher capacity in dogfight maneuvers
higher range at subsonic speed
improved stall resistance and anti-spin characteristics
improved stability at high angles of attack
a lower minimum flight speed
a shorter take-off and landing distance
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A forward swept wing has very few disadvantages, many of them are more structural.
 
fedr808 said:
I dont think the F-22 has better climb rates....

A forward swept wing has very few disadvantages, many of them are more structural.
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I know the awesomeness of swept-forward wings. However, F-22 have more powerful engines then the Su-47 ( I think the ATD-X have even more powerful engines ). F-22 reduced drag by mounting the missiles inside a compartment beneath the fighter. F-22 have not a swept back wing, but two pairs of delta wings. ATD-X will probably have a even greater climb rate then the F-22.
 
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