Sad milestone, American victims of Islamic terrorists reach 3,000!

[Buffalo Roam]

samcdkey, personal attacks? I have to go with what I see you post, you have never defended the U.S. you always go the moral equavalincy arguement, which in the end means you are defending the actions of the terrorist and the thoughts and actions of OBL.

 

[Mr.Spock]

I would believe you if it weren't for all the personal attacks.

Verbal abuse is the first sign of weakness in an opponent, doncha know? Its a sign he/she has no counter argument.

Whenever I get a personal remark, I know I've made my point.

thats funny, like b.r said, your posts are full of it. that wasnt a personal attack sam, not by a long shot. you assume too much.

 

[S.A.M.]

samcdkey, personal attacks? I have to go with what I see you post, you have never defended the U.S. you always go the moral equavalincy arguement, which in the end means you are defending the actions of the terrorist and the thoughts and actions of OBL.

what does the war in Iraq have to do with terrorists?

edit: so many "you's" nah, not personal at all!

Besides if you think my opinion is an isolated one, you're sadly mistaken.

http://www.ccmep.org/2002_articles/Iraq/102702_pictures_of_anti.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/20/iraq.main/index.html
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_2003_Iraq_war
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2765041.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2672809.stm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/ngos/role/iraq.htm
http://www.vaiw.org/vet/index.php
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/15/1436216
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0228-08.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1110-02.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,12809,1577559,00.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article314735.ece

Painting me as a terrorist supporter won't cover up the folly of the US government. Like it or not, you have been judged by the world and found wanting.

 

[S.A.M.]

thats funny, like b.r said, your posts are full of it. that wasnt a personal attack sam, not by a long shot.

You're right. That wasn't it.

you assume too much.

So do you. I never claimed the attack was from you.

 

[Skater]

Was he a Catholic/Humanist? These Christians/Atheists! Always creating problems between Muslims and Jews. Don't you listen to him!

See now I've covered everyone!

And why did your Italian "friend" (hehe) think that Muslims always take on Jews?

Why is 'friend' in quotation marks?

* Do you fremember the signs "g... bless hitler" by Muslimns demontrating the cartoons?
http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-Graphics/hitlersign.jpg


* Take for example the cartoons-jihad when Christains Danes drew cartoons on Muhammad, the Pakistani Muslins protested like this:

I do not want to post the image itself, it might be very offensive to some people:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ill_jews_1.jpg
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...led/index.html

 

[Mr.Spock]

You're right. That wasn't it.



So do you. I never claimed the attack was from you.

then why write this after quting me?:

I would believe you if it weren't for all the personal attacks.

 

[Genji]

Gengi
Was the cost of getting rid of Hitler worth It? You just don't seem to want to admit that Saddam was part of the Terrorist Cabal, and that he supported, gave sanctuary, to terrorist, and was working to rebuild his Military, and WMD, and that during his time as Dictator of Iraq the violence was hidden because it was his people doing the violence, on the surface yes Iraq look peaceable, and well ordered, but just look at the personal tape's that Saddam kept of the beatings and torture and executions by his Fayadeen Saddam, Iraq wasn't at peace when we invaded, and the Blood Code that these people live by being carried out by the Shia' for all the atrocities that Saddam and his Sunni henchmen carried out.

I do not see any comparison whatsoever between Hitler and Hussein. That is really stretching the spin machine to come up with that one. He was a typical dictator, like dozens of others all over the globe. He posed no threat to the USA and did not have WMD's. A threat to the USA would be Pakistan. How long will the hugely unpopular military dictator there hold power? Pakistan has WMD's and is filled with Wahhabist and Taliban supporters. This war on Iraq has built an axis that will grow quickly. It has revolutionized and legitimized the Islamic fundamentalist movement globally. Do you honestly think Saddam was comparable to Adolf Hitler? You surely know there are many other far more brutal dictatorships around the world.

 

[S.A.M.]

Why is 'friend' in quotation marks?

* Do you fremember the signs "g... bless hitler" by Muslimns demontrating the cartoons?
http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-Graphics/hitlersign.jpg


* Take for example the cartoons-jihad when Christains Danes drew cartoons on Muhammad, the Pakistani Muslins protested like this:

I do not want to post the image itself, it might be very offensive to some people:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ill_jews_1.jpg
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...led/index.html

If I remember rightly the "cartoon" incident took 3 months to surface after publication. Obviously an engineered affair.

Any other examples?

the "friend" sounds suspiciously unreal.

 

[S.A.M.]

then why write this after quting me?:

Because I was answering you, as in:

I would believe you if it weren't for all the personal attacks.

 

[Genji]

Its also incredibly ironic that the "insurgents" and "militants" that the US is fighting in Iraq today are the same "victims" that were "suppressed" by Saddam.

Great point. It was all about saving the poor Iraqis after the WMD story failed to pass the litmus test. But listen to the war supporters and they repeat how thrilled they are about using Iraq as a magnet to fight terrorists around the world, destroying their country and killing their civilians. Better that battle be fought there thanhere!! YukYukYuk. Doesn't sound like something a person concerned with democracy flourishing in Iraq would say.

 

[Skater]

If I remember rightly the "cartoon" incident took 3 months to surface after publication. Obviously an engineered affair.

Meaning?, are you a crazy "conspiracy theories jihadists"? I hope not!

Any other examples?

Aftermath of 911, When Muslims suferred a backlash.

the "friend" sounds suspiciously unreal.

Don't bet on it.

 

[Genji]

400,000 Iraqis dead, that means WE WIN! GO AMERICA!

:m:

Saddam was hanged for killing 149 Iraqis. Adopting even more brutal tactics than he did huh? Who is the cutthroat terrorist here? Bush AND all of his supporters have earned a noose in my view.

 

[S.A.M.]

Meaning?, are you a crazy "conspiracy theories jihadists"? I hope not!

Hardly
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/775
http://daledamos.blogspot.com/2006/02/timing-of-danish-cartoon-riots.html

I swear that 90%+ of the protestors in Muslim countries have not seen the cartoons and do not know the name of the paper and when I say that I'm sure of it because I have access to the web 24/7 and I spent a really long time searching for the cartoons and couldn’t find them until a friend emailed me a link and.

You know that those cartoons were published for the 1st time months ago and we here in the Middle East have tonnes of jokes about Allah, the prophets and the angels that are way more offensive, funny and obscene than those poorly-made cartoons, yet no one ever got shot for telling one of those jokes or at least we had never seen rallies and protests against those infidel joke-tellers.

Aftermath of 911, When Muslims suferred a backlash.

??

 

[Genji]

Once again if 500,000 people are dying each year from smoking (and we are soooo concerned about Americans dying) then where are all the protests?

1,000 deaths a year out of 150,000 troops (in a war which is incredible...) is a lower percentage than those who smoke and die from it. So once again where are all the protests?

We had more soldiers die on the road leading to our base than in Iraq. Maybe Cindy should have had a protest concerning the road? I mean if all she REALLY cares about is the lives of Soldiers she would be protesting soldiers drinking, soldiers smoking, vehicle safety, road safety, and demanding that tanks have seat belts! 3,000 deaths is just some figure Anti-war head in the sand pacifists use to justify their cause.

She would do more good for society sending care packages to the troops overseas.

You see deliberately sending thousands of troops into an Arab civil war is the same as accidental deaths and medical problems? If I hit someone with a car it's highly unlikely it was planned, and cheered, and financed and justified by the govenment. UnReal you fail to see the obvious and glaring difference between a war based on lies and car wrecks! You people are really having a tough time justifying your failed Iraq policies. Even your prophet GW has conceded grave errors in his war. It's unfortunate you aren't there, it may just bring back a small amount of your soiled humanity.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Genji, we could have addopted the Sadam way of exicuting his prisoners, feed them to starving dogs, shooting the whole family to make a point, hang everbody in prison to make room for more prisoners, use chemical weapons against civilian in cities, Gengi you are just as bad as Sam, the moral equivalence stand that you use only means that you condone what OBL and the terrorist have done and are doing, and show me a war that doesn't have mistakes, you adjust for your mistakes and try to capitalize on you enemies mistakes, Read Carl von Clausewitz, The Fog of War, it is standard reading for military people who want to advance their carrers, and as quoted from Carl von Clausewitz:

The great uncertainty of all data in war is a peculiar difficulty, because all action must, to a certain extent, be planned in a mere twilight, which in addition not infrequently — like the effect of a fog or moonshine — gives to things exaggerated dimensions and unnatural appearance.

this must be delt with on the 4 levals of stratigy,

1. Grand Strategic

2. Military Strategic

3. Operational

4. Tactical

So do some research so you know what the hell your talking about.

 

[Genji]

Genji, we could have addopted the Sadam way of exicuting his prisoners, feed them to starving dogs, shooting the whole family to make a point, hang everbody in prison to make room for more prisoners, use chemical weapons against civilian in cities, Gengi you are just as bad as Sam, the moral equivalence stand that you use only means that you condone what OBL and the terrorist have done and are doing, and show me a war that doesn't have mistakes, you adjust for your mistakes and try to capitalize on you enemies mistakes, Read Carl von Clausewitz, The Fog of War, it is standard reading for military people who want to advance their carrers, and as quoted from Carl von Clausewitz:



this must be delt with on the 4 levals of stratigy,

1. Grand Strategic

2. Military Strategic

3. Operational

4. Tactical

So do some research so you know what th hell your talking about.

Again. The Iraq war is a disaster and a failure. Your prez admits to fucking things up big time. It is unpopular and costing billions upon billions of dollars. We have murdered more Iraqis than Saddam ever could imagine. You are of a minority opinion last I checked. You know, elections, resignations and admissions of a failed Iraq policy.
Dictators are brutal all over. You need to invade about 35 more countries with leaders much more cruel than little Saddam. Your fear of him is amusing.

 

[Baron Max]

So do some research so you know what th hell your talking about.

He's not trying to argue about anything, or trying to make a point, he's just spouting innuendo so as to get a rise out of people. As you can tell by his posts, he don't know what the fuck he's talkin' about ...he's just a repeater of innuendo and political bullshit.

Baron Max

 

[Buffalo Roam]

True so very true, the problem is that the wrong women chose not to have abortions, and to many Americans have the same way of trying to sound intelligent.

 

[Genji]

He's not trying to argue about anything, or trying to make a point, he's just spouting innuendo so as to get a rise out of people. As you can tell by his posts, he don't know what the fuck he's talkin' about ...he's just a repeater of innuendo and political bullshit.

Baron Max

I wuv you too little man! I Do! You are full of bullshit as is your political persuasion. The American people took care of that didn't they? So now you bastards need to figure out how to win elections!!

 

[spidergoat]

Genji, we could have addopted the Sadam way of exicuting his prisoners, feed them to starving dogs, shooting the whole family to make a point, hang everbody in prison to make room for more prisoners, use chemical weapons against civilian in cities, Gengi you are just as bad as Sam, the moral equivalence stand that you use only means that you condone what OBL and the terrorist have done and are doing, and show me a war that doesn't have mistakes, you adjust for your mistakes and try to capitalize on you enemies mistakes, Read Carl von Clausewitz, The Fog of War, it is standard reading for military people who want to advance their carrers, and as quoted from Carl von Clausewitz:



this must be delt with on the 4 levals of stratigy,

1. Grand Strategic

2. Military Strategic

3. Operational

4. Tactical

So do some research so you know what the hell your talking about.

Don't even try to suggest that Bush is aware of war strategy, he doesn't know the first thing, and neither does Rummy who should know better. YOu just have to browse Sun Tsu's Art of War to see that Bush was drawn into a trap.