Russell's teapot

[S.A.M.]

My point is that people are not that different from other animals.

Thats true, my cat and I share views on karma.

She always runs to the loft after breaking something.

 

[Enmos]

Thats true, my cat and I share views on karma.

She always runs to the loft after breaking something.

Oh I forgot, humans have a soul and animals do not. Stupid me.

 

[lightgigantic]

My point is that people are not that different from other animals.

perhaps some people ...

 

[Enmos]

perhaps some people ...

All. The only difference is a higher intelligence, and the apparent consequences of it.

 

[Enmos]

LG and SAM,

do you two believe in evolution ? Do you believe the homonids have a common ancestor ?
If so, can you tell me when homonids first had a soul ?

 

[S.A.M.]

Are you saying animals have no consciousness?

 

[Enmos]

Are you saying animals have no consciousness?

No.. and I don't know where you got that from.

Now answer the questions please.

 

[S.A.M.]

No.. and I don't know where you got that from.

Now answer the questions please.

This is where you go on ignore.

Stop asking silly questions.

 

[lightgigantic]

hint : soul = consciousness

 

[S.A.M.]

hint : soul = consciousness

he's confusing us with western theists. :shh:

 

[Enmos]

My point is that people are not that different from other animals.

Thats true, my cat and I share views on karma.

She always runs to the loft after breaking something.

perhaps some people ...

hint : soul = consciousness

If soul = consciousness, why do you say that humans are radically different from animals ?
If soul = consciousness and animals have consciousness, what is so divine about the human soul ?

I would really appreciate if you two just simply answered the questions.

 

[S.A.M.]

Mostly because we care about such stuff, we evaluate our suffering and seek resolution for it.

We go to work , we want meaning in our existence. Its not enough merely to survive and reproduce, no matter how well we eat.

 

[Enmos]

Mostly because we care about such stuff, we evaluate our suffering and seek resolution for it.

We go to work , we want meaning in our existence. Its not enough merely to survive and reproduce, no matter how well we eat.

But what causes this behavior in humans ?

Btw, I am not convinced animals don't do those things or the equivalent as well to some extent.

 

[lightgigantic]

If soul = consciousness, why do you say that humans are radically different from animals ?

the consciousness is not covered so much ... or to put it simply, we have the facility for philosophy/self realization/etc as opposed to issues of sleeping, eating, defending and mating 24/7

If soul = consciousness and animals have consciousness, what is so divine about the human soul ?

its more about a special facility offered by the human body

 

[S.A.M.]

But what causes this behavior in humans ?

A greater capacity for self destruction, I think.

 

[Enmos]

A greater capacity for self destruction, I think.

lol
Or just a higher intelligence ?

 

[S.A.M.]

lol
Or just a higher intelligence ?

Sure. In either case, we murder to dissect.

And consider it justified.

 

[Enmos]

the consciousness is not covered so much ... or to put it simply, we have the facility for philosophy/self realization/etc as opposed to issues of sleeping, eating, defending and mating 24/7



its more about a special facility offered by the human body

Can you point out this facility of the human body ? It seems you now claim it's corporal.

 

[Enmos]

Sure. In either case, we murder to dissect.

And consider it justified.

Thank you.
Just to be clear, the difference between humans and other animals is that humans have a higher intelligence.
Agree ?

 

[lightgigantic]

Can you point out this facility of the human body ? It seems you now claim it's corporal.

you have reason to believe that animals exhibit, say, existential despair?