Religion is Atheism

samcdkey said:
Most scientists today are clueless about scientific philosophy, unfortunately.
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understatement of the year. philosophy is nice and humbling. its where all the loose ends end up. the box o mystery. science, i think, is more ignorant of it then religion is... science's very aims seem to be invested in ignoring mystery... real, unsolvable mystery. oops. i said it again. christian.
 
nig said:
understatement of the year. philosophy is nice and humbling. its where all the loose ends end up. the box o mystery. science, i think, is more ignorant of it then religion is... science's very aims seem to be invested in ignoring mystery... real, unsolvable mystery. oops. i said it again. christian.
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I think its because most scientists brought up with a science education that lacks philosophical training have a limited understanding of the basis of scientific thought.

They get so caught up in the tools of science that they miss the part where they are based on inferences following certain assumptions.
 
i'm glad i lit some fire under this thread... and it led to scientist bashing on a scientist forum... hee hee hee. alright. i gotta do a multiple state trip this weekend, but rest assured i'll be back on monday to make fun of nervous sense-making and the overnarration that provides a false calm in the face of pure goddamn mystery.

i'm glad i found this place. its fun!
 
nig said:
i'm glad i lit some fire under this thread... and it led to scientist bashing on a scientist forum... hee hee hee. alright. i gotta do a multiple state trip this weekend, but rest assured i'll be back on monday to make fun of nervous sense-making and the overnarration that provides a false calm in the face of pure goddamn mystery.

i'm glad i found this place. its fun!
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Oh we scientists bash each other all the time. Only we call it peer review.:p
 
(Q) said:
Like what?
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Color. Consciousness. Identity. Gravity. and countless other things. How can we be sure we know what we know? Does a knowledge regression analysis need a foundation or merely to be internally coherent? Does the regression go on forever? Countless things. We don't even know, for sure, how we know... anything at all. Again... epistemology. Its so cool. Its all editorials too... because no one knows.
 
(Q)Does science disprove free will?

Throw that in the pile o mystery. I love arguing about free will. Its really cool too. Maybe next week.
 
nig said:
Color. Consciousness. Identity. Gravity. and countless other things.
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Oh, I see now, you're mistaking that which can be explained with that which you are unaware. You should have just said so in the first place.
 
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i thought this was a philosophy thread? and what happened to the christian-hater that was accusing me of theism? ran away eh?
 
(Q) said:
Oh, I see now, you're mistaking that which can be explained with that which you are unaware. You should have just said so in the first place.
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to think that everything can be explained, whether or not we have access to the explanation, begs an 'eye' that doesn't exist. its very religious in fact.
 
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