Not actually raped! He just wrapped his front legs around me and refused to stop humping my leg, so I kicked him.
I have never Read up on it, Im just going by my old pets, The older male dog used to bite our bitch as soon as she went into her first heat and chase her around and forcefully try to hump her. if you applied that behaviour to a human doing it to another human would you not say its rape?.
The damn dog used to try and hump people all the time aswell, does trying to physically force inside another animal when they are rejecting not constitute as rape the same as in humans?.
The younger female dog did not look very pleased and used to try and fight back all the time.
Ducks on the other hand I have read up on, and also seen a few documentry shows on.
Not actually raped! He just wrapped his front legs around me and refused to stop humping my leg, so I kicked him.
hmm
I always thought of leg humping as the dog equivalent of masturbating!!
Oh, I understand the concepts of consent, both implied and explicit. You, however, seem unable to understand that sometimes a person is incapable of giving consent.So I'm just going to have to assume that you are too dense to understand what the terms implicit and explicit consent are.
Good for you.I'd rather help my mates out that got screwed by whales that felt they were entitled to some sort of lifestyle just on the basis of having a vagina. The same whales that would steal their money, follow them around town all day, make wild accusations about them anytime they left the house, went out to the clubs and cheated on them, forced them to move out of state, and eventually left them once they were into the state that their online girlfriend was in.
So feminists are at fault for the prevailing male view in society? How so?When it is the feminists that are to blame, they may as well accept their blame.
What fantasies? Look around you ABS. Men think that other men who are raped are somehow lucky and men who are abused are wimps. It's not a fantasy. It is a sad fact.Keep your fantasies to yourself.
There does seem to be a few assumptions here:
A) females never want sex and therefore have to be forced into it
B) that males are incapable of knowing when a female wants sex
c) regardless of what a female wants a male wants sex so a female has to 'give it up'
Chi I want your ipod now give it up!!!!!!
Maybe,I have 2 little kittens at the moment the boy is starting to get curious of the girl in a sexual way, he always tries to get ontop of her in a rough way, but she is bigger and stronger than him and a little older, she just beats him up and wrestles him then runs away after he has been slapped up a bit.
peace.
There are many types of mating rituals and displays in the animal kingdom to manipulate the female into giving up sex, but if you look closely at many mammals lots of them just use there physical brute strength to overpower the female and pin her into submission.
One day at the park we saw a duck get gangraped, we were worried that the other ducks in the train were going to make her eventually drown.
Then there is this classic clip from youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWS9nccpYk
I wanna say bonobos have rape in their societies, but I don't feel like confirming that statement right now.
Do I wanna see what's in that youtube clip?
One day at the park we saw a duck get gangraped, we were worried that the other ducks in the train were going to make her eventually drown.
Then there is this classic clip from youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWS9nccpYk
I wanna say bonobos have rape in their societies, but I don't feel like confirming that statement right now.
Let's put the issue of whether or not a spouse can be assured of faithfulness aside. Obviously they can't. A better point is that trying to convince your gf/spouse to have sex exposes her to absolutely nothing she won't be exposed to anyway unless she intends to never have intercourse with you again.Ah. So that's how it goes. Of course, everyone is faithful to their partners, aren't they? And all the partners know it, don't they?
Ok. So do you think you've committed rape? Don't give me this "that's for a jury to decide" crap. I'd hope that if you really thought that trying to convince a woman to have sex was rape, you wouldn't do it. So, given that you've admitted to doint it, I can only surmise that you either don't really believe it to be rape, or you don't feel that rape is that big of a deal since you do it yourself.I've nagged a partner before, and if she really wants to make an issue out of it, I'll be happy to let a jury decide. Life goes on.
Ah, the Left. Always looking for complexity, even when it's not there. Einstein said,I tend to think that people cheapen the issue of rape when they pretend it's such a simple issue.
Madanthonywayne said:
Let's put the issue of whether or not a spouse can be assured of faithfulness aside. Obviously they can't. A better point is that trying to convince your gf/spouse to have sex exposes her to absolutely nothing she won't be exposed to anyway unless she intends to never have intercourse with you again.
Ok. So do you think you've committed rape? Don't give me this "that's for a jury to decide" crap.
I'd hope that if you really thought that trying to convince a woman to have sex was rape, you wouldn't do it. So, given that you've admitted to doint it, I can only surmise that you either don't really believe it to be rape, or you don't feel that rape is that big of a deal since you do it yourself.
But it truly seems that the Left loves to bury itself in minuatua to the point they lose sight of the big picture.
The Right, on the other hand, loves Ronald Reagan who'd make statements like (this is from memory) "My strategy for the cold war? Simple. They lose."
A Liberal would never have said something like that. They'd get bogged down in a discussion of whether or not we really have the right to "win". And what do we mean by "win", anyway?
When it comes to serious crimes like rape and murder, a person really ought to know whether he's commiting a crime without having to reference a 52 point manisfesto.
If there is a grey area, in a nation whose justice system is based upon innocent until proven guilty, it should favor the defendent.
Look, my intent was not to brand you a rapist, but to point out that your definition of rape is so broad and unworkable that it even includes yourself.Well, what do you know? Madanthonywayne has to change from past to present tense. Gosh, what a surprise!
Tell me, Madanthonywayne, what are you really here for? To discuss a topic? Or is this part of some personal crusade of yours?
Look at what you just said. You said,Now, am I worried about the effects of the nagging? No, not really. Does this mean I intend to nag future lovers? I would hope not. And this is the problem with what you surmise: you presume what is convenient for your politics. How ... expected.
Why do you always ask whether I've engaged in homosexual sex when discussing heterosexual sex? No, I've not had a penis inside of me. I'm not homosexual. What bearing could this possibly have on the present discussion?So just remind me, Madanthonywayne, how many times have you been fucked by a penis? Do you prefer it if he ejaculates inside you, or on your skin? Or are you a condoms-only man, since nobody can be trusted?
I'm for harsh punishment, including death, hard labor, whatever. But I'm also for making sure you've got the right guy and that a crime's been commited.Wait, wait ... a conservative, in 2008, arguing that the justice system should favor the defendant? What, is this because the crime in question has to do with getting laid?
It doesn't mean he's not a rapist, but it also (taken by itself) doesn't mean he is.Take for instance, "We were drunk." A jury might say, "Look, the whole thing's a mess. Nobody is reliable. We have to acquit because we can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt, no matter how sleazy this defendant is." And after the acquittal, there will always be a willing chorus of idiots to take up the cry: She was drunk, therefore he's not a rapist.
Of course the fact that she was drunk doesn't mean "she wanted it". But, as you pointed out, it does diminish the reliability of everyone's testimony.I don't know exactly where the transition between "Drunk = unreliable stories" to "Drunk = she wanted it" occurs, but a jury might rule the former, while I've heard the latter spoken, in various forms, many times over the years, by men I've known.
Perhaps I never have encountered such a victim. Or, more likely, I did and didn't realize it. Which is why I didn't comment on that. Frankly, it sounds like you're talking about some kind of wife beater who has his wife trained to jump when he calls for her.Oh, hey, one reiteration, since you missed it in your rush to be political:
There are many households in our culture that are rife with constant psychological abuse. The victims of this abuse do see their perspectives and judgments narrowed, their lives often polarized into the most basic of decisions.
And in these circumstances, I can certainly perceive the weight of "nagging". Perhaps you have never encountered a victim of psychological exploitation, but it's rather a frightening thing to witness.
I envy that female kitten, I really do...
Why can't they wait until she is in heat? It would make more sense from an evolutionary perspective, surely? Would she not be more likely to get pregnant, than if she is forced into it?
OMG guys you still at it? Aren't you bored of this topic yet?