Has anyone looked at it yet?
I'm not trying to construct a ram jet that will power anything but just to see what the minimum is to create an increase in the air current moving out of one end of the tube due to the heating.I'm not sure if you have a ram jet there. You need a second tube inside the first tube... I think. The second tube should probably also be cold.
I'm not trying to construct a ram jet that will power anything but just to see what the minimum is to create an increase in the air current moving out of one end of the tube due to the heating.
I would then say at the equatorial regions of these planets the atmosphere is gravitationally contained and heated by the Sun. And because of prior motion the energy absorbed makes the atmosphere move faster in the direction it is already moving.
Is there any ozone on Jupiter? Is there an ozone hole? These atmospheric effects long precede any thinning of the ozone layer on Earth.Of course you are right that you need a complete simulation. I was just adapting you first experiment. If I was making it from scratch without adapting yours I would do this...
Ball for the Earth.
Tight Gauze with a large hole at the front, small hole at the back for ozone layer.
Large Chinese lantern type object for space (self constructed from sticks, and paper) With fan sized hole at one end, small hole at other end.
Fan with heater behind it for sun. Sealed with Chinese lantern.
Cold metal rod for magnetic outflow in the middle of ozone gauze hole.
Then you test to see how much hot air goes through the gauze, how much goes along the cold rod, and how much spreads around the Chinese lantern.
Is there any ozone on Jupiter? Is there an ozone hole? These atmospheric effects long precede any thinning of the ozone layer on Earth.
So what are you using as a Ramjet then? ....
The physics you are talking about is a greenhouse effect.
This is the simplistic design:
"The design I have in mind is a straight 300 mm diameter pipe 2 meters long.
This has an electrical heating coil attached to it, (wound around it). It is then insulated so that the coil heats just the pipe.
An electrical current is passed through the cable and the tube can heat up.
A fan positioned at one end of the tube blows air through the pipe. A wind flow meter is at the other end measuring the outflow.
As the temperature of the tube heats up the wind flow meter will measure the changes in throughput. Hopefully heat is radiated or conducted to the air moving through the tube."
And these are the questions I want you to answer:
Do you think the wind flow meter will record an increase or a decrease in the wind flow speed proportional (or some relationship) to the temperature of the tube walls?
Or do you think the heating of the moving air will have no effect on the air flow speed?
And it may not be qite the same as the Greenhouse Gas Effect as in the GHG situation the light strikes the land surface which then radiates infra red photons some of which are then picked up by certain molecules.
In my set up heat is produced and by contact the energy is transferred to moving gas molecules. Due to the requirement of conservation of energy and momentum, molecules going in the same direction as the forces will be speed up (wind). This intensifies the wind and doesn't tend to slow it down.
If the collisions decelerated the gas molecules you would be struggling to see how energy and momentum can be conserved.
because the pressure will become so great that the hot air suddenly gets crushed into smaller particles
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Hot air rises if it is displaced by colder air taking its place. Colder air is denser than warm air. But each molecule of air does immediately want to go up just because it is hot. The molecule itself is not lighter but faster. The kinetic energy it has gained makes it bump the other molecules out of the way so the gas expands and hence density drops and then is displaced by colder air.Well in your version, the hot air should attempt to rise, and expand causing friction along the tube, a sort of rolling due to the friction, and slow the air down. If you keep raising the temperature, eventually the experiment should flip around, because the pressure will become so great that the hot air suddenly gets crushed into smaller particles.
Yes my theory has chameleon particles. Hence Gravity becomes Magnetism.
This experiment is limited by the strength of the tube. I would make it from steel, and it would never be heated to over 1000 degrees centigrade. Atmospheric temperatures on the planets in question can be quite high but I doubt if it would go higher that what is required to melt steel.
We need to see what the temperature of Jupiter's atmosphere is on average.
The effects you speak of may only happen at much higher temperatures if at all.
Great the insane leading the... insane!
Heating air causes it to expand, expansion is motion, thus heating air causes motion, heat differentials cause direction of motion, planets do this, ram jets do this, thread over... but no don't let me get in the way of talking more about the chameleon particles.
I know Pincho's ideas are a bit odd, but he keeps the thread moving.Great the insane leading the... insane!
Heating air causes it to expand, expansion is motion, thus heating air causes motion, heat differentials cause direction of motion, planets do this, ram jets do this, thread over... but no don't let me get in the way of talking more about the chameleon particles.