Mainstream science has some well known inconsistencies. The consensus cosmology and the consensus particle model are not yet unified. Nature is unified and so the inconsistencies that exist represent incomplete knowledge and understanding of nature. We are held back by our limited ability to observe at the micro and macro levels and we don’t yet have a grand unifying theory.
My interests lie in the area of speculating about what we might find if we had the tools to observe the ultimate depths and farthest reaches of nature.
In order to make it easy for someone to read the topical content of this thread I periodically update a running summary document that includes revisions I have made to earlier posts and drops the off topic posts so a new reader can get up to speed with the least effort. But first let me do a little reorganization to bring in some content I posted elsewhere. In the thread called,
“Continuous or discrete universe”, in the Physics and Math forum I posted some speculative views that I’ll bring over here to this Pseudoscience thread where they are more at home, lol. Here are two posts from over there for incorporation into this thread. I think they would fit best at the beginning of the thread so in the next recap I’ll fit them in up front.
Post 1
VoidSet, here we have, in less than a thousand words, my layman's essay on speculation about the nature of a fundamentally continuous universe as opposed to a discrete or digital universe. This describes an infinite and boundless greater universe and not a spherical universe but it does include a lot of spherical expansion like each big bang arena.
Let’s start out based on a premise that the foundational nature of the universe is continuous.
I’ll call it, “About Continuous Wave Energy that Traverses Space, a Premise”
Waves of what? Waves in what?
In regard to light, “waves of what” is electromagnetic waves. They are well defined and their source, means of propagation, and the nature of light makes up a good portion of what most students learn in physics. We can describe EM wave action by saying they are emitted by atomic and molecular dipoles, are propagated by transverse electric and magnetic fields, they carry energy, have frequency, wavelength, and they display both wave and particle characteristics.
And yet there is speculation about the nature of light and what makes it act the way we observe it to act. For example how curved in-phase light wave fronts seem to have rays at every point and vector perpendicular to the wave front of the curved plane surface and maintain that characteristic at every radius throughout their spherical expansion. Or how light passes through pin holes and even tubes smaller than the wave length and emerges as spherical wave fronts.
In regard to light, we don’t view the “waves in what” as a medium that all things move through, we view light moving via transverse self-propagating fields. But fields don’t just apply to light. Everything that traverses space is said to have a field through which the energy is propagated or associated with the force that initiates it. There is no action at a distance without a field as far as we can detect. Gravitational fields, electrical fields, magnetic fields, various other fields like the Higgs field, quantum field theory, the digital geometry of spacetime field (OK, maybe not that one, lol) … multiple fields everywhere seems to be the way the background of the universe is described.
Waves of energy can be contained and released by processes of nature but can never be permanently subdued or destroyed. They can be contained in particles by a natural process, and freed from particles as out-flowing waves that might leave the particle essentially intact or change the particle. Wave energy can be freed from the particles by destroying the particles and releasing various other particles along with some of the contained kinetic and/or wave energy. The more we experiment the more we learn, and the more we learn, the more we think there is to learn.
There are limits and thresholds governed by natural processes that control and orchestrate the flow of energy waves but there is no process that can create or destroy energy, and that is the law, and one that is clearly in the consensus. Once a particle is established, it is sustained for various durations, maybe by inflowing and out flowing wave energy, particle charge, spin, interacting particles and/or defined forces and yet the particle story is also incomplete, which stimulates more speculation. Are there gravity waves? How can we detect them? Are they high frequency or low frequency or both?
Speculatively, the space surrounding a particle is filled with wave energy, some of which is flowing toward, into, through, and around the particle and some of which is flowing within, out of, away from, and out from around the particle.
If there is a medium, the medium is wave energy itself as the wave crests and troughs continuously carry energy from their origin, flowing through each other and forming converging crests and troughs that form and diverge continuously. Wave action fills every point in space. If all energy is eternal and has always existed, then all space has always been filled with wave energy, and so speculatively, space filled with wave energy at all points is the medium.
Given that description of the background medium of wave energy, natural processes use the wave energy background to establish the presence of matter and nature uses the presence of matter and its gravity to perpetuate wave energy through collapse and expansion that play out within limits of wave energy density.
Expansion and collapse can speculatively characterize the nature of particles at the quantum wave level, maybe through synchronization or standing waves. At the grand scale of the greater universe, expansion and collapse is speculatively characterized by the gravitational collapse of matter composed of wave energy. Matter would collapse into big crunches and as a limit of matter compression is reached, crunches would collapse as the matter in the crunch succumbed to the gravitational compression. The collapse would occur as soon as the crunches reach a maximum density limit associated with matter. The collapse of the matter into the wave energy of which the matter is composed would be called a big bang.
The force of the collapse would bounce off of a maximum natural limit of wave energy density, i.e. nature does not allow infinite wave energy density, and as the maximum allowed density is reached during the collapse, the momentum of the collapse bounces off of the naturally imposed limit and into expansion. Expanding wave energy emerges from these big bangs and perpetuates the wave energy of the background of the greater universe.
Thus the premise that the foundational nature of the universe is continuous would be completely compatible with a cosmology of a boundless and eternal universe characterized by particles and big bangs that are in compliance with natural processes that orchestrate the expansion and compression of wave energy, the formation of matter from wave energy, and the negation of matter into wave energy through limits and thresholds at work in accordance with the invariant natural laws of the universe.
Post 2
VoidSet, I never did get a response from you about my post on how you could be living in an essentially spherical universe if our Big Bang was the one and only.
To avoid being channeled into current theories I think we can talk about foundational matters from a fresh viewpoint. Let’s make it axiomatic that space is filled with wave energy; gravity waves, EM waves, converging and diverging waves at all points in space as I supposed in my easy on the continuous nature of the universe.
And from that same viewpoint, let’s make it axiomatic that time is a continuum and simply passes at the same rate at all points in space instead to being entwined in the spacetime continuum.
These two postulates together can be used to derive a view of the universe.
Don’t get me wrong, time is entwined with motion. Everything takes time to occur, but the duration of events is a measure as time passes and in this view does not change depending on the perspective or motion that an observer has on the event. That different perspective only changes the time that will show on clocks in motion relative to each other, i.e. time dilation due to energy density differences between the environments of the clocks.
To be brief, in this view, time dilation as defined by SR is replaced by alternative ideas about the effect of wave energy density on the motion of matter through space. Gravitational fields cause time dilation because the intensity of wave energy density is greater near the surface of an object than it is at a distance from the object. Time dilation caused by acceleration is due to the wave energy intensity increase required to accelerate an object through the existing wave energy in all space. Hence both gravity and acceleration can cause time dilation because they require the energy density of the space occupied by the object to increase. This view also includes the speculation that particles of matter have a functioning rate and that rate is variable relative to the energy density of the environment. Acceleration can also cause length contraction according to the alternative ideas. So both time dilation and length contraction are part of the new view.
Given the axiom that time flows on a smooth continuum, then let’s take a freeze frame look at a patch of space at a point in time and digitize it. There will be high density spots where wave energy converges and low density spots where wave troughs coincide.
Because everything is in motion as waves traverse the wave energy background, each consecutive freeze frame, regardless of the duration between them, will show motion from one point in time to the next that will be portrayed as a change in the pattern of high density and low density spots. This would look like the cellular automation link in the earlier post.
There are an infinite number of different durations you could use between freeze frames but if there were preferred durations in nature, the continuous change due to wave energy motion could be digitized from a continuous wave energy flow by using the preferred duration. Don’t get ahead of me here because the result is not the same as the automaton.
A preferred duration implies that there is a natural process that applies to converging wave energy (which is the continuous fundamental nature of reality in this scenario) that takes a discrete length of time to occur. That process in my scenario is called quantum action and is characterized by what physically occurs within the high density spots that form and appear as waves converge. In the freeze frame these convergences are the high density spots that show up.
The “delta t” in a freeze frame sequence of snap shots could be set to correspond with one set of high density spots and show the start and end of quantum action in regard to that one synchronized set of high density spots.
Immediately it becomes obvious that there is not just one set of synchronized spots like in the automaton because during the quantum period that marks the duration of the quantum process, other high density spots form that were not the spots in the first frame or the spots in the second frame. Because we speculate that the duration is a function of the process of quantum action, we conclude that the presence of the spots from one frame, separated by the quantum period, to the next frame will represent only a portion of the high density spots that occur in the patch of space we are depicting. Stay with me on this.
Further we can conclude that the spots in the second frame are not the same spots as in the first frame, but are different spots formed by different wave energy convergences. The spots in the first frame have played out because waves continue on after they converge and flow through each other. In accordance with the quantum action process there is action that takes place as waves converge and that occurs during the brief duration of convergence before the waves have completely flowed on.
So what is that quantum process doing during the wave convergence, a brief quantum period to say the least? The answer might be that the process that takes a finite and discrete quantum period to occur is the processing of the converging waves that inflow to the high density spot. That processing results in out flowing waves that emerges from the spots slightly altered from their inflowing curved plane shape. Quantum action includes the equalization of energy density within the convergence space that occurs during the brief convergence period. That equalization results in the out flowing waves being spherical and equal in all directions, synchronized out flow, just as if the inflowing waves had passed through a pin hole in space (the space disturbed by quantum action) and emerged from the pin hole as spherically expanding waves.
So you see, VoidSet, in this continuous view of the natural universe we have the spherical nature of the universe at both the quantum level and at the Big Bang level. Do you like it?