Q: How many Atheists does it take to change a light bulb?
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pumpkinsaren'torange
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ok...i can't resist...i know the following should probably be posted in the phil. forum..but...what the heck. i doubt they'd appreciate it...besides...they'd end up analyzing it to death.
Q.w many philosophers does it take to replace a light-bulb?
A. 3 - 1 to screw it into the socket and 2 to debate its existence/reality or not.
Q.w many philosophers does it take to replace a light-bulb?
A. 3 - 1 to screw it into the socket and 2 to debate its existence/reality or not.
ah.. u don't know that story !
theists first saw light and accepted that as light...
when electricity and luminence were explained by the inventor they prasied God for the gifts viz., electricity and revealation to the inventor..!
(with due respects for the inventor of lightbulb ...Edison ? ...Atheist ? )
Cris,
No. We simply live in reality more then you do. The inventions are let's say... "lower" realities while God is a "higher"reality. Men might have invented lightbulbs, but who invented men...?
CounslerCoffee
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There is no lightbulb. It does not exist, it is only an extension of ones self.
Cris,
You enjoy yours. Remember that when we are in a dream, we don't know we are dreaming (for some exceptions, of course)...
He didn't designed us badly. The only things that He didn't give us directly were knowledge, wisdom and eternal life. He asked us to receive wisdom and eternal life, but we chose knowledge. There you go, you want science, that's what you have...:bugeye:
Suuuure Zero...
Cris,
He gave us enough information to be aware of ourselves. He told us to go and eat almost all the trees of the garden. We ate all of them besides the Tree of Life and the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. He told us not to eat from the second. We were curious, so we made the wrong choice. If we had eaten from the Tree of Life, we would have eternal life and after eating the Tree of Life, we would be ready to eat from the other. We made our choice.
Cris,
He wants to see us growing up as much as fathers and mothers want to see their kids growing up. The thing is that you concider science, but forget Love...
He gave us enough information to be aware of ourselves. He told us to go and eat almost all the trees of the garden. We ate all of them besides the Tree of Life and the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. He told us not to eat from the second. We were curious, so we made the wrong choice. If we had eaten from the Tree of Life, we would have eternal life and after eating the Tree of Life, we would be ready to eat from the other. We made our choice.
truthseeker,
This pretty much makes the entire basis for Christianity and the need of a savior a total fraud.
I expected your obsession with love to come in somewhere although I cannot see that is relevant at this point.
I guess there was a reason for you to say that, but I can't see what.
I think you mean eat "from". Eating a tree doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
OK.
OK. But where did we get the knowledge to understand that disobeying him might be bad? At this point we haven't eaten from the tree that gave the knowledge of good and evil so we wouldn't know that eating from that tree would be bad.
So we had been given the ability to be curious but not the ability to understand the difference between good and bad. So it looks like we were deliberately setup to take a fall. God must have known that our curiosity would lead to the wrong tree but he didn't show us how to decide between right and wrong.
But based on inadequate knowledge and teaching. We cannot be held responsible for something that we could not have had any ability to appropriately judge.
This pretty much makes the entire basis for Christianity and the need of a savior a total fraud.
all this over a silly light bulb
pumpkinsaren'torange
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:bugeye: hmmmmmm.....that's debatable...