Putin propagates hateful gay stereotype

I condemn all overtly sexual behavior in view of children, regardless of orientation.
Do you seriously believe that the clownish depictions of sexual behavior in these parades are significant fodder for erotic stimulation of viewers of any age? Such rare experiences are dwarfed by the accessibility of real and virtual sexual imagery available daily to most adults and children.

Maybe we should restrict access to these objects of sexual obsession as well.
 
I am not really up on Solstice goings on, but at Mardi Gras (even on Bourbon Street) sexuality is not the sole focus (no matter what Girls Gone Wild would have us believe), unlike gay pride parades. Where heterosexuals can be just as hedonistic, I have not seen any make their sexuality the focus of a parade and a matter of pride. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
So your problem is that it is their sexuality 'on display' more than anything.
 
I am not really up on Solstice goings on, but at Mardi Gras (even on Bourbon Street) sexuality is not the sole focus (no matter what Girls Gone Wild would have us believe), unlike gay pride parades.

Despite what is depicted on various right wing websites and FOX News reports, sexuality is not the sole focus of gay pride parades. Some of them are downright pedestrian (i.e. the "God loves queers" section of the San Diego pride parade.)
 
Where heterosexuals can be just as hedonistic, I have not seen any make their sexuality the focus of a parade and a matter of pride. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
I'd guess that it's for the same reason that black civil rights protesters had race as the focus of their parades.

I guess that would justify violent riots?
 
Except you exempt the flamboyant chastity-vowing dress of nuns and priests, the various sexual aspects of marriage ceremonies, and the like, (even stuff famously connected with actual child sexual molestation)

while ostensibly condemning all public or even social nudity anywhere near a child regardless of its sexual connotations, and in practice confining your condemnation to nude gay men - on the grounds that their existence threatens the wellbeing of children.

Can you see how this would make no sense to anyone not sharing your particular bigotries and presumptions?

This is an amazingly ignorant argument. Nothing about nuns is overtly sexual, and if nuns turn you on, that is your own paraphilia.
 
Do you seriously believe that the clownish depictions of sexual behavior in these parades are significant fodder for erotic stimulation of viewers of any age? Such rare experiences are dwarfed by the accessibility of real and virtual sexual imagery available daily to most adults and children.

Maybe we should restrict access to these objects of sexual obsession as well.

Who said anything about "erotic stimulation of viewers of any age", you pervert? And do you honestly assume, what, that all objects of paraphilia are somehow inherently sexual?

Paraphilia describes the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, or individuals. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

So your problem is that it is their sexuality 'on display' more than anything.

If it is overt.

Despite what is depicted on various right wing websites and FOX News reports, sexuality is not the sole focus of gay pride parades. Some of them are downright pedestrian (i.e. the "God loves queers" section of the San Diego pride parade.)

"Section" of the pride parade? Why only a "section"?
 
Who said anything about "erotic stimulation of viewers of any age", you pervert?
Apparently this guy did.
Ask parents of pregnant teens. Sex has repercussions, including the possibility for STDs. While most normal and public adult behavior does not have as serious of consequences, sexual behavior is not the only potential ethical lessons.

And do you honestly assume, what, that all objects of paraphilia are somehow inherently sexual?
They obviously are to some people. Does this explain why a gay man exposing his penis leads to teen pregnancy?

Paraphilia describes the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, or individuals. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia
Wouldn’t you consider viewing exposed genitals at a gay pride parade an atypical situation for most people?
 
Who said anything about "erotic stimulation of viewers of any age", you pervert?
Apparently this guy did.
Syne said:
Ask parents of pregnant teens. Sex has repercussions, including the possibility for STDs. While most normal and public adult behavior does not have as serious of consequences, sexual behavior is not the only potential ethical lessons.

Again, who said anything about "erotic stimulation of viewers of any age", you pervert? Nothing about overtly sexual behavior teaching children that such is acceptable presumes stimulation, only that it is acceptable and perhaps even expected when they become sexually mature or interested. It is about teaching it as a norm of expression, by example, to impressionable young minds.

That you would equate lessons about sexual behavior with sexual stimulation is disturbing. Do you also assume sex-ed is "erotic stimulation"?

And do you honestly assume, what, that all objects of paraphilia are somehow inherently sexual?
They obviously are to some people. Does this explain why a gay man exposing his penis leads to teen pregnancy?

You obviously cannot read. I said "inherent" which is not dependent upon the proclivities of "some people". Overtly sexual behavior is an example young adults will emulate.

Paraphilia describes the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, or individuals. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia
Wouldn’t you consider viewing exposed genitals at a gay pride parade an atypical situation for most people?

Nudity is not an atypical object of sexual arousal. Work on that reading comprehension.
 
That you would equate lessons about sexual behavior with sexual stimulation is disturbing. Do you also assume sex-ed is "erotic stimulation"?
What exactly did they teach you in sex ed? Unless you’re the product of artificial insemination, there was likely the usual element of eroticism involved in your conception.

You obviously cannot read. I said "inherent" which is not dependent upon the proclivities of "some people".
If there wasn’t something inherently unique to those objects they wouldn’t be relevant to the obsession.

Overtly sexual behavior is an example young adults will emulate.
So if you were to parade down the street exposing your genitals, would you expect bystanders to approach to engage in sexual intercourse? Or, have you ever been lucky enough to encounter a young woman parading topless down a street willing to engage in sex with you? Do you really think emulating such behaviors are common or effective methods used to establish sexual relationships?

Nudity is not an atypical object of sexual arousal. Work on that reading comprehension.
But for children to witness and be aroused by it in a gay pride parade is.
 
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What wrong with nudity in front of children? I was thinking Putin meant gays rape children, not that their gay pride parades was damaging to children's psyche!

I think the problem here is the idea that children should be kept in ignorance of sex for as long a possible, why?
 
If it is overt.

How exactly does one make one's sexuality overt?

How do gays overtly display their sexuality in a way that is different to heterosexual people?

Overtly sexual behavior is an example young adults will emulate.
Do you think that if someone sees a boob or a penis, then if they are seen by a young adult, they will immediately strip down and have sex or something?

You make no sense.

Or do you think children do not experiment with sex and even their own bodies through masturbation, etc?

Or do you think if a boob or penis is flashed or if someone wears skimpy underwear or bathing suit on a mardi gras float, then young people will also want to strip down and dance to music while wearing wild and bright costumes?

Do you think if young adults visit some parts of Asia, where some of the religious temples are decorated in "overt sexual displays" that they will immediately drop their pants and start having sex? What about if they visit some of the religious churches and cathedrals and art galleries in Europe, where many of the artwork is "overtly sexual"?

To reiterate, Syne, you can't catch gay. If someone sees a gay person's sexual bits, it won't make them gay.
 
What wrong with nudity in front of children? I was thinking Putin meant gays rape children, not that their gay pride parades was damaging to children's psyche!

I think the problem here is the idea that children should be kept in ignorance of sex for as long a possible, why?


Why is there an indecent exposure law ?

More to the point . If you have a 10 year old daughter would it be agreeable with you to have sex or be exposed to sexual activity ?
 
Why is there an indecent exposure law ?

Because people are prudes?

More to the point . If you have a 10 year old daughter would it be agreeable with you to have sex or be exposed to sexual activity ?

I don't think I would have a problem with her knowing of it, or seeing it on occasion, she going to see crazy shit eventually and it would be best if I'm their to teach her context and how to deal with it.

"Dad, faggots are screwing on the sidewalk again!"
"Oh see Dipshit (That the name I have picked out for my future daughter) they are allowed to do that every since they got equal rights, all the fears of the Christians were right and gays just fuck publicly all over the place now, usually in front of wholesome heterosexual couples with kids just like us.. now Dipshit be a dear and get me my crack pipe, dad needs his fix."
 
I suppose our views are different . If we are majority we create such laws and the law should be respected . It does not mean you have right to expose yourself and your family , that is why there are some designated nudity camps.
 
I suppose our views are different . If we are majority we create such laws and the law should be respected.

Majority of people once made slavery legal, burning of heretics, etc, etc, what the majority of people want is not necessarily right simply because it is the majority opinion (appeal to popularity). Sure the law should be respect on so far as not to go to jail, but nudist colonies exist for those that find fault with just vain laws.

It does not mean you have right to expose yourself and your family , that is why there are some designated nudity camps.

Legally within my own house I could walk around naked in front of my kids.
 
What exactly did they teach you in sex ed? Unless you’re the product of artificial insemination, there was likely the usual element of eroticism involved in your conception.

I certainly was not "stimulated". Most young adults find sex-ed a bit embarrassing or funny, being taught by an adult. If your teacher "aroused" you that would seem to be a personal issue, and if intentional, could be legally actionable.

If there wasn’t something inherently unique to those objects they wouldn’t be relevant to the obsession.

You really have no clue.

in·her·ent
1.
existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute.

How does someone's personal obsession add "a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute" to an object? If everyone does not agree that an object has said quality than it is not an inherent quality. Period.

Crack a dictionary.

Overtly sexual behavior is an example young adults will emulate.
So if you were to parade down the street exposing your genitals, would you expect bystanders to approach to engage in sexual intercourse? Or, have you ever been lucky enough to encounter a young woman parading topless down a street willing to engage in sex with you? Do you really think emulating such behaviors are common or effective methods used to establish sexual relationships?

What the fuck are you on about? Who said ANYTHING about emulating the exact behavior (i.e. nudity in a parade) to "establish sexual relationships"?

First, overtly sexual behavior is not solely limited to nudity, as I have previous cited bump-and-grinding, etc.. Second, overt sexual behavior can be seen as a norm by the young and impressionable, which can lead women to view themselves as solely sexual objects, among other things.

If you thing people viewing themselves as sexual objects is an effective method for establishing healthy sexual relationships, then again, that sounds like a personal problem.

But for children to witness and be aroused by it in a gay pride parade is.

Again, who said anything about child arousal (except you, of course)? Pervert.

What wrong with nudity in front of children? I was thinking Putin meant gays rape children, not that their gay pride parades was damaging to children's psyche!

I think the problem here is the idea that children should be kept in ignorance of sex for as long a possible, why?

Nudity is not necessarily overtly sexual. No need for children to be kept ignorant either, especially as they start becoming sexually mature, but their exposure should be reasonably monitored. I mean, most people do not think porn is appropriate sex-ed, because is depicts unrealistic and risky behavior.

How exactly does one make one's sexuality overt?

How do gays overtly display their sexuality in a way that is different to heterosexual people?

Who said "different"? Simulating sex is obviously overt, and heterosexuals do not generally have parades celebrating their sexuality.

Overtly sexual behavior is an example young adults will emulate.
Do you think that if someone sees a boob or a penis, then if they are seen by a young adult, they will immediately strip down and have sex or something?

You sick pervert! Again, like Capracus, why do you leap to the assumption that emulation would require immediate sexual arousal?

Perverts!

Or do you think children do not experiment with sex and even their own bodies through masturbation, etc?

Masturbation is typically private, hence not overt.

Or do you think if a boob or penis is flashed or if someone wears skimpy underwear or bathing suit on a mardi gras float, then young people will also want to strip down and dance to music while wearing wild and bright costumes?

Do you think if young adults visit some parts of Asia, where some of the religious temples are decorated in "overt sexual displays" that they will immediately drop their pants and start having sex? What about if they visit some of the religious churches and cathedrals and art galleries in Europe, where many of the artwork is "overtly sexual"?

Again, why assume immediate sexual arousal, pervert? Can you really just not imagine anything between completely innocuous and complete depraved? I am talking about behavior the impressionable may see as a norm, and latter emulate.

To reiterate, Syne, you can't catch gay. If someone sees a gay person's sexual bits, it won't make them gay.

Straw man. Who said anything about "catching" gay?
 
ElectricFetus;3156457 Legally within my own house I could walk around naked in front of my kids.[/QUOTE said:
Italian priest flashed himself at two girls
A priest in the northern Italian city of Savona has been hit with a €7,500 fine after exposing himself on a street to two young girls, allegedly while drun
 
Italian priest flashed himself at two girls
A priest in the northern Italian city of Savona has been hit with a €7,500 fine after exposing himself on a street to two young girls, allegedly while drun

What does that have to do with the price of cheese? I can walk around naked in from of my kids and I can choose to press charges or not on anyone the flashes by kids, etc, etc, (assuming I would have kids or for starters have sex consistently with women and without money being involved.)

Syne said:
Nudity is not necessarily overtly sexual. No need for children to be kept ignorant either, especially as they start becoming sexually mature, but their exposure should be reasonably monitored. I mean, most people do not think porn is appropriate sex-ed, because is depicts unrealistic and risky behavior.

Some pornos, some pornos teach that even fat obese people wear condoms, at least when fudge packing (got to keep clean, right?) or what ever fold their violating. So it all depends on the porno. But yes children should be taught that nudity is not sexual, but normal, that their is nothing taboo about their bodies... and how to inject smack into dad's arm at his request.
 
Who said "different"? Simulating sex is obviously overt, and heterosexuals do not generally have parades celebrating their sexuality.
What exactly does simulating sex have to do with homosexuals and parades?

You sick pervert! Again, like Capracus, why do you leap to the assumption that emulation would require immediate sexual arousal?

Perverts!
I'm not the one obsessing about simulating sex in front of children and connecting it for some reason or other, to homosexuals. You are. Perhaps you can explain how and what homosexuals have to do with simulating sex in front of children?
What does their sexuality have to do with anything?

Masturbation is typically private, hence not overt.
Okay. So why are you suggesting that it is somehow overt when it comes to homosexuals?

Again, why assume immediate sexual arousal, pervert?
And once again, you are the only person saying that young adults will emulate it if they see it and you are connecting it and blaming it on homosexuals and you have been the only person obsessing about simulating sex in front of and with people who look like children, no one else has. Perhaps you can explain yourself?

Can you really just not imagine anything between completely innocuous and complete depraved? I am talking about behavior the impressionable may see as a norm, and latter emulate.
Oh I can. But I have my doubts that you can answer the question honestly. You have consistently argued about what you constitute as homosexual behaviour in public and how it constitutes a danger to children and young adults. I and others would just like you to explain your obsession instead of trying to dodge the questions.

Straw man. Who said anything about "catching" gay?
Actually, you have been arguing it for a while now.
 
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