The point has been made to Jan Ardena a number of times in a different thread that defining a thing in a particular way doesn't mean that thing is real. If I define ArkFunkle as the little pixie who lives in my computer and makes it work, the evidence that my computer works does not prove the existence of Arkfunkle.
That is wise as there is no "universal definition" not even within the limited (and minor division of humanity) that call them selves: "Christians"I'm not postulating that God is real because of the universal definition.
Perhaps by 10% of all humans. Do you have any data supporting your POV?God is defined as the original cause/creator of the material world.
I agree, but you are showing your hidden assumptions (one God) instead of many specialized gods, like most of humanity has believed exist for most of human existence.This god thing , concept or what ever you want to call it , lacks depth of thought. ...
I agree, but you are showing your hidden assumptions (one God) instead of many specialized gods, like most of humanity has believed exist for most of human existence.
That is wise as there is no "universal definition" not even within the limited (and minor division of humanity) that call them selves: "Christians"
Perhaps by 10% of all humans. Do you have any data supporting your POV?
Almost all scientifically informed, think matter was created when the universe had expanded and cooled enough for quarks to be formed from the high energy density in accord with m = E/(C^2); and not by some agent called "God." This was the first demonstration that energy, E, changes form in quantative steps.
I agree, but you are showing your hidden assumptions (one God) instead of many specialized gods, like most of humanity has believed exist for most of human existence.
Agreed
And that there was the balance of male and female
I like your post Billy T.
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No, not joking, only noting there is great controversy among various divisions of Christian.So you're saying CHRISTians who worship Jesus Christ, ... isn't the very ''definition''?
You are joking aren't you? ...
Yes, not all who worship Jesus are Christians. You have to believe that he is the son of god, he died for your sins, and rose on the third day, and if you accept him into your heart, you are saved and forgiven of sin. It's a pretty well defined set of beliefs.So you're saying CHRISTians who worship Jesus Christ, accepting him as this universal definition, or that his Father (whom he claims this definition as truth), isn't the very ''definition''?
Wrong of course. Hirohito was considered a god to the Japanese people. Most ancient European kings were considered divinities, as well as the Czar of Russia.I'm not postulating that God is real because of the universal definition.
I've consistently pointed out that regardless of whether or not God is real, God is defined as the original cause/creator of the material world. Get over it.
jan.
Right, some electric lights got less bright. Praise Him.A universal definition of the real and true living God and not the false ones would be as a conscious spirit that manifests no particular form unless it wants to. God = Universe. Now, if I touch myself does that mean I feel less divine and more human? Absolutely. However none of that fazes my knowledge of a universal consciousness that is all good and all knowing even though I haven't seen empirical evidence for Him in almost a year, I would still never forget the evidence of His manifestations that can be explained by Quantum Mechanics as nothing, including God, is beyond scientific explanation.
Right, some electric lights got less bright. Praise Him.
And your definition is isn't universal.
I just cited several examples of people being worshiped as gods. I'm suggesting that gods as immaterial concepts could be a relatively recent phenomenon.Why are you in disagreement with it?
2000 years ago none were immaterial. Diana is the Roman Goddess of the moon, as well as of animals, nature, and the hunt. She is the equivalent of the Greek Goddess Artemis, ...I just cited several examples of people being worshiped as gods. I'm suggesting that gods as immaterial concepts could be a relatively recent phenomenon.