Dear atheists, no need to reply to your limited thinking, please consider that according to science time has a beginning so also space.
Are you into insisting that the existence status came forth from the non-existence status, meaning in plain language: there was literally nothing then something came forth?
You see, you keep on and on insisting in your understanding of beginning as a time concept, but beginning also means a causative beginning.
Now, you will ask, can causation occur outside time?
Yes, of course: because science tells us time has a beginning, so on causative antecedence in which antecedence there was no time, time itself by causation came into existence, so that all things in time existing are now subject to time.
But time itself is caused and it has a beginning, a causative beginning outside time itself.
The way I see you, you are banking all your thinking on the concept of beginning as only a time captive concept, in which case you are of the idea that everything in existence came forth from nothing -- which is an absurd idea.
Think about this idea, there has always (non-time always) been something in existence from which something everything in time came forth, and time itself began existing together with the everything that came forth from the causative agent which has always (non-time always) existed, i.e., in what we call for lack of a better term and concept, eternal existence.
That is a very old fallacious non-thinking tack of atheists, binding the word beginning to an exclusively time captive concept.
Here, think on facts and logic on this idea or distinction:
1. Time based causation which is what we humans observe all the time in time; let us call this chronological causation.
2. Timeless based causation which is what we can know even though we never experience any causation in which time antecedence is not involved; let us call this second case a-chronological causation.
The lesson you must always bear in mind is that you cannot without absurdity maintain that something came forth from nothing, i.e., you must maintain with certainty at the cost of going absurd: that something always exists even in the causative antecedence of time, meaning when time has not begun to exist by causation, it the something already and always (non-chronological already and always) exists.
So, the default foundation of all thinking is that there has always existed something beyond time and space, but when it created time and space, everything which it created in time and in space is subject to time and space.
And that something is what I call God, in concept the creator and operator of the universe and of everything with a chronological and causative beginning -- and God Himself is not subject to time and space.
Answer this question before you go forth into verbosity in aid of fallacious thinking:
Has there already and always (non-chronological already and non-causative always) been the default status that something has already and always existed, instead paradoxically nothing?
