Don't waste the time of readers here.
Number 1: if you don't comprehend the sentence: everything with a begininng has a cause, you don't belong here.
But the most important thing you can do yourselves atheists a favor, is to present an example of something with a beginning but without a cause.
It is useless for you to write volumes and volumes of words, just give an example.
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Pachomius, Yesterday at 7:37 AM #256
That is still begging the issue, what is the cause of the flow?
Thinking on facts and logic requires us to always seek out the ultimate cause of everything with a beginning, otherwise it is all begging the question.
Okay, guys, don’t give any attention whatsoever to anyone redefining nothing so that it is no longer literally nothing but something, he is just into making us chase a wild goose, so don’t fall for it, even though he writes volumes and volumes of fictions.
Sorry, I can’t answer to everyone, I am only one writer, writing for myself; if you have a good thought, put it in brief language, concise, precise, and definite: don’t bring in links or authorities (just appropriate it and simply mention that you borrow it, but don’t have to put any link: your borrowed idea is valid on its own merit – and you have done your duty to give credit to the author even though you don’t bother with links and explicit attributions.
Okay, for guys who want to explain away that parents are not the cause of their children, please just stop quibbling.
It’s useless.
Let us just concentrate on this idea, everything with a beginning has a cause.
Now, do your own thinking on facts and logic, please stop already with evading the instant issue, everything with a beginning has a cause.
Everytime I reply to one of you guys I notice later that you have succeeded to take away my attention from the idea, everything with a beginning has a cause.
So, and no more links from any source whatever, give your own thinking and writing on this idea, everything with a beginning has a cause.
It is a self-evident idea.
Dear readers here, I will have to go to another board in this forum to see whether I can get posters to dialog with me on the idea, everything with a beginning has a cause -- the usual atheists here are always unremittingly into evasions, nothing else.
And don’t bring in as example whatever not of the realm where we actually exist in, live in, make a living in, die in, and get buried in: nothing like virtual particles, all these fictions are altogether nothing of the reality of our existence and life.
Give an example like the baby has a beginning, it has its cause in its parents.
Or like this one which is macabre, you commit suicide by hanging yourself, the suicide event has a beginning, and you are the cause.
So, present an example of something that has a beginning but no cause: please, nothing of fictions, your example must be in the realm where we exist in, live in, make a living in, die in, and get buried in.
If you insist on such fictions like virtual particles, then just set up your own thread to talk about the fiction of virtual particles.
Everyone, concentrate on this idea, it is self-evident that everything with a beginning has a cause.
If you don't find it self-evident, just give an example from the realm where we exist in, live in, make a living in, die in, and get buried in, of something with a beginning that does not have a caujse: no need to write volumes and volumes of words, one example proves your point perfectly -- if you can present one.
So write on this matter in your next post here.
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Number 1: if you don't comprehend the sentence: everything with a begininng has a cause, you don't belong here.
But the most important thing you can do yourselves atheists a favor, is to present an example of something with a beginning but without a cause.
It is useless for you to write volumes and volumes of words, just give an example.
Annex
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Pachomius, Yesterday at 7:37 AM #256
Somebody in the net says:
A cause in physics is a flow of energy from a region of higher energy to a region of lower energy. An effect is the change that results.
A cause in physics is a flow of energy from a region of higher energy to a region of lower energy. An effect is the change that results.
That is still begging the issue, what is the cause of the flow?
Thinking on facts and logic requires us to always seek out the ultimate cause of everything with a beginning, otherwise it is all begging the question.
Okay, guys, don’t give any attention whatsoever to anyone redefining nothing so that it is no longer literally nothing but something, he is just into making us chase a wild goose, so don’t fall for it, even though he writes volumes and volumes of fictions.
Sorry, I can’t answer to everyone, I am only one writer, writing for myself; if you have a good thought, put it in brief language, concise, precise, and definite: don’t bring in links or authorities (just appropriate it and simply mention that you borrow it, but don’t have to put any link: your borrowed idea is valid on its own merit – and you have done your duty to give credit to the author even though you don’t bother with links and explicit attributions.
Okay, for guys who want to explain away that parents are not the cause of their children, please just stop quibbling.
It’s useless.
Let us just concentrate on this idea, everything with a beginning has a cause.
Now, do your own thinking on facts and logic, please stop already with evading the instant issue, everything with a beginning has a cause.
Everytime I reply to one of you guys I notice later that you have succeeded to take away my attention from the idea, everything with a beginning has a cause.
So, and no more links from any source whatever, give your own thinking and writing on this idea, everything with a beginning has a cause.
It is a self-evident idea.
Dear readers here, I will have to go to another board in this forum to see whether I can get posters to dialog with me on the idea, everything with a beginning has a cause -- the usual atheists here are always unremittingly into evasions, nothing else.
And don’t bring in as example whatever not of the realm where we actually exist in, live in, make a living in, die in, and get buried in: nothing like virtual particles, all these fictions are altogether nothing of the reality of our existence and life.
Give an example like the baby has a beginning, it has its cause in its parents.
Or like this one which is macabre, you commit suicide by hanging yourself, the suicide event has a beginning, and you are the cause.
So, present an example of something that has a beginning but no cause: please, nothing of fictions, your example must be in the realm where we exist in, live in, make a living in, die in, and get buried in.
If you insist on such fictions like virtual particles, then just set up your own thread to talk about the fiction of virtual particles.
Everyone, concentrate on this idea, it is self-evident that everything with a beginning has a cause.
If you don't find it self-evident, just give an example from the realm where we exist in, live in, make a living in, die in, and get buried in, of something with a beginning that does not have a caujse: no need to write volumes and volumes of words, one example proves your point perfectly -- if you can present one.
So write on this matter in your next post here.
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