Possibility of star formation around black holes

there's observational evidence that clearly shows they do exist.
i'm not sure if this is still occurring,
but scientist were recently watching a gas cloud being rip apart and sucked into a black hole in the middle of our galaxy

But is not possible that the opposite is happening ?

That the stars are made and spewed Out of the galactic core , hence the gas cloud is the tail of the connect between the galactic core and the star its self .
 
But is not possible that the opposite is happening ?

That the stars are made and spewed Out of the galactic core , hence the gas cloud is the tail of the connect between the galactic core and the star its self .

no, if you had seen the images, you will understand.
there is no star involved with this.
also, understanding somethings about black holes and other such things that pertain will help.
that image i supplied is a basic and can be used to learn alot from on that level.
 
there's observational evidence that clearly shows they do exist.
i'm not sure if this is still occurring,
but scientist were recently watching a gas cloud being rip apart and sucked into a black hole in the middle of our galaxy

So are you saying that galactic jets produce just hydrogen ?
 
A plasma inotherwords

Now why would a black-hole eject a plasma ? Since a black-hole sucks everything into it , including light
where does it state plasma,
please do not do the whole incorrect interpretation thingy.
it's very annoying.

and before we move forward, please understand what that image is stating and showing.
 
The image doesn't state it , it IMPLIES it

it clearly states,
" high energy jets of particles and radiation "

please do not do the whole incorrect interpretation thingy.
it's very annoying.
 
it clearly states,
" high energy jets of particles and radiation "

please do not do the whole incorrect interpretation thingy.
it's very annoying.

Of course its annoying , because there is a contradiction to what a black-hole is theoretically suppose to do and what is actually happening , spewing out a plasma , which is not what a black-hole is supposed to do
 
A plasma inotherwords

Now why would a black-hole eject a plasma ? Since a black-hole sucks everything into it , including light

Playing games again rivers?
You and other "would be,s if you could be,s" have been informed countless times that BH's eject nothing.
Now I won't go into the mechanics of what those jets are, and how they come about, since you already should know, but that answer does not fit into your usual obvious agenda.
 
Playing games again rivers?
You and other "would be,s if you could be,s" have been informed countless times that BH's eject nothing.
Now I won't go into the mechanics of what those jets are, and how they come about, since you already should know, but that answer does not fit into your usual obvious agenda.

Oh please pad go into the " mechanics " of how these jets came about
 
Of course its annoying , because there is a contradiction to what a black-hole is theoretically suppose to do and what is actually happening , spewing out a plasma , which is not what a black-hole is supposed to do

the contradiction is your incorrect interpretation,
which is now the third time i have requested for you to stop doing.

not only that but we move from a black hole to a quasar,
which is also not understood here.

at this point, i'm just going to give up explaining here
until it's shown to me that it's becoming understood..
 
the contradiction is your incorrect interpretation,
which is now the third time i have requested for you to stop doing.

not only that but we move from a black hole to a quasar,
which is also not understood here.

at this point, i'm just going to give up explaining here
until it's shown to me that it's becoming understood..

Although the formation of galactic jets is not fully understood, one suggestion is that the magnetic fields of the supermassive black hole and the accretion disk interact. This interaction simultaneously releases energy from the black hole, and constrains the direction in which it can leave the system, funnelling it all into collimated jets.

Another question troubling astronomers is what exactly are these jets made of? The modern consensus is that the main constituents are electrons and their anti-particle equivalent, positrons. These are thought to be produced by ‘pair-production’ close to the event horizon of the central black hole, and squirted out at almost light speed by the action of the combined magnetic fields.
 
Until an experiment is cited which reveals the creation of elements and or a star these 22 pages of discussion with a proposed experiment are the closest to the truth of our cosmic existence. Not only by my own words but by the words of others who post factual information here. Till then it is all just speculation.

No, scientific theory, aligning with the known laws of physics and GR, gives us a picture of Universal evolution, "beyond any reasonable doubt" from t+10-43 seconds, up until the present.
Plus the fusion of elements beyond Hydrogen and helium, has been shown to be factual in thermonuclear weapons, and is the only possible means by which the tremendous energy put out by stars is possible.
The rest of your thoughts are fairy tales.


The furthest I have been able to speculate is consciousness created the universe. The very act of thought renders so many scientific anomalies that we must consider the creation of matter in the universe and the act of thought might be connected at a singular point bearing a circular and repetitious evolution of consciousness bringing the universe closer to understanding itself.

What consciousness?
If you are invoking some form of deity, then just come right out and say it.


The closest experiment to deciphering the answer to this question is to gather the elements listed upon the periodic table into a singular container of iron (to block minute aspects of fission/fusion and keep the experiment from going supernovae) and studying it as both a conscious entity and a tool of creation. It is both within the reach of our technology yet still the furthest reaches of our imagination without abstaining from excessive interpretation or reality.

Thank you all for your good thoughts.

Philosophical crap.
 
here's a couple of actual images of the jets

574px-m87_jet.jpg


vla_3c175.gif


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Although the formation of galactic jets is not fully understood, one suggestion is that the magnetic fields of the supermassive black hole and the accretion disk interact. This interaction simultaneously releases energy from the black hole, and constrains the direction in which it can leave the system, funnelling it all into collimated jets.
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I knew you could do it!
So why play games in the first place?
My only correction, is that it is far more then a suggestion, and is what is most probably likely with "Kerr–Newman" BH's...Magnetic field lines are probably the most obvious player in the observed jets.
 
Although the formation of galactic jets is not fully understood, one suggestion is that the magnetic fields of the supermassive black hole and the accretion disk interact. This interaction simultaneously releases energy from the black hole, and constrains the direction in which it can leave the system, funnelling it all into collimated jets.

Another question troubling astronomers is what exactly are these jets made of? The modern consensus is that the main constituents are electrons and their anti-particle equivalent, positrons. These are thought to be produced by ‘pair-production’ close to the event horizon of the central black hole, and squirted out at almost light speed by the action of the combined magnetic fields.

So apparently this , galactic black-hole has a magnetic field , which is not drawn into the black-hole its self

So then the magnetic field of a galactic black-hole , is significant
 
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