Pornogrophy: Good or Bad?
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"Porno is for the people that cannot get laid, no offense. I used to watch porn at a very young age and it polluted my mind and my perspective of women. It's stupid, I'm voicing my opinion."
To you. Someday I hope you will acknowledge and respect a world where many different things can produce many different reactions within many different people. Ah well......someday.
"Alot of people look at porn and there are lots of better things to do than that."
I ate peanut butter and toast for snack last night. I didn't really need food, I just felt like having some peanut butter and toast. Does that make peanut butter and toast (or the act of eating it) wrong or bad? I play hockey quite often. There's things that to some people I could better spend my time doing. Does that make it bad or wrong?
"Aside from that, looking at too much porn can seriously damage your image of women and what turns you on."
I'm not going to argue that porn can open your mind to changing what turns you on. But I also don't particularily care about it.
"A man is married and looks at porno constantly. When him and his wife have sex, he can't get an erection because of how "imperfect" his wife is compared to all that porno shit. Now that's very pathetic. Do you know how emotionally damaged that man's wife is? Everytime they have sex, he needs to look at a naked picture of Pamela Anderson to achieve an erection. You can tell their relationship did not last, the wife was badly hurt, deep inside her."
This man already had emotional or psychological problems if he is so distorted by pornography that a naked woman who wants to have sex with him is not arrousing. I highly suggest you advise him to seek help.
"So try to resist your urges, once you do, your on your way to handling women better instead of looking at them as only sex objects."
Haha! This from the DJ who likes to play the game because every guy apparently is after women? Now that's irony! On top of which it's just plain wrong. You watched porn when you were younger; did you consider women sex objects? I watched porn quite gladly for a period of, well I guess about a year and a half or so. Never made me see women as sex objects.
"But we should all learn to have more respect for OURSELVES."
How does watching porn show self disrespect?
To you. Someday I hope you will acknowledge and respect a world where many different things can produce many different reactions within many different people. Ah well......someday.
"Alot of people look at porn and there are lots of better things to do than that."
I ate peanut butter and toast for snack last night. I didn't really need food, I just felt like having some peanut butter and toast. Does that make peanut butter and toast (or the act of eating it) wrong or bad? I play hockey quite often. There's things that to some people I could better spend my time doing. Does that make it bad or wrong?
"Aside from that, looking at too much porn can seriously damage your image of women and what turns you on."
I'm not going to argue that porn can open your mind to changing what turns you on. But I also don't particularily care about it.
"A man is married and looks at porno constantly. When him and his wife have sex, he can't get an erection because of how "imperfect" his wife is compared to all that porno shit. Now that's very pathetic. Do you know how emotionally damaged that man's wife is? Everytime they have sex, he needs to look at a naked picture of Pamela Anderson to achieve an erection. You can tell their relationship did not last, the wife was badly hurt, deep inside her."
This man already had emotional or psychological problems if he is so distorted by pornography that a naked woman who wants to have sex with him is not arrousing. I highly suggest you advise him to seek help.
"So try to resist your urges, once you do, your on your way to handling women better instead of looking at them as only sex objects."
Haha! This from the DJ who likes to play the game because every guy apparently is after women? Now that's irony! On top of which it's just plain wrong. You watched porn when you were younger; did you consider women sex objects? I watched porn quite gladly for a period of, well I guess about a year and a half or so. Never made me see women as sex objects.
"But we should all learn to have more respect for OURSELVES."
How does watching porn show self disrespect?
Joeman:
That explains a lot.
You'll all be shocked - SHOCKED - to hear that I first encountered porn at a young age.
I am hardly a crazed sex-murderer. Personally, I do not like the - bluntness - of most porn. But to each his own.
Chosen: Pamela Anderson has only been in one skin flick, to my knowledge. The infamous video with her and Tommy Lee.
You're probably thinking of Jenna Jamison, who looks quite simular.
As for your friend, I'd advise you to advise him to seek some sort of counseling.
As Goofyfish mentioned, some couples make a habit of watching porn together.
*Shrugs*
A bit of brandy and a nice Tiffany Minx flick sounds like a romantic evening to me, as well.
That explains a lot.
You'll all be shocked - SHOCKED - to hear that I first encountered porn at a young age.
I am hardly a crazed sex-murderer. Personally, I do not like the - bluntness - of most porn. But to each his own.
Chosen: Pamela Anderson has only been in one skin flick, to my knowledge. The infamous video with her and Tommy Lee.
You're probably thinking of Jenna Jamison, who looks quite simular.
As for your friend, I'd advise you to advise him to seek some sort of counseling.
As Goofyfish mentioned, some couples make a habit of watching porn together.
*Shrugs*
A bit of brandy and a nice Tiffany Minx flick sounds like a romantic evening to me, as well.
Xev,
To be perfectly honest with you, You ARE scary
I still love you Xev, but it is gonna take me quite awhile to really get over what you have said this afternoon
I don't know how you turned out like that. Where the hell are your parents? Nevermind. Maybe I am dumb but I gotta go outside and take a breath of fresh air.
To be perfectly honest with you, You ARE scary
I still love you Xev, but it is gonna take me quite awhile to really get over what you have said this afternoon
I don't know how you turned out like that. Where the hell are your parents? Nevermind. Maybe I am dumb but I gotta go outside and take a breath of fresh air.
~The_Chosen~
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Re: Re: I advise against it
Softcore is ok, I object against hardcore.
Surely, your woman can't compare to some porno star such as Jenna Jameson, if so then great! Other than that, watch it everyday, masterbate to it.
Once you do this, we are what we REPEATEDLY do.
If you don't masterbate to it, good, but if you do it too much, it'll be such a bad habit and all you can do is masterbate to a porno video and not your own imagination.
No don't rely on one man's opinion, rather ask alot of men, old men that know. I know i did not express myself clearer.
What kind of adult films? How OFTEN? Hardcore? Softcore? If you consistently watch it together, then there is no problem, just don't rely on the porno movie to be aroused, it will start becoming a habit.
But you are married for 20 years, that's great Goofyfish, watching alone and masturbating to it, I object against.
No, but I did not make myself clear.
You are what you repeatedly do, things will become habit.
If you do masturbate ONLY to porno movies, this will indeed become a habit.
You are so used to such porno movies, that it's the only thing that could possibly turn you on. Picture this, I will take an extreme case.
Everyday, you come home, porno, masturbate. The next day, same thing. You keep doing it, your arousals will ONLY respond to those porno movies.
But I see you watch it with your wife, so that is perfectly fine.
Peace.
Softcore is ok, I object against hardcore.
Surely, your woman can't compare to some porno star such as Jenna Jameson, if so then great! Other than that, watch it everyday, masterbate to it.
Once you do this, we are what we REPEATEDLY do.
If you don't masterbate to it, good, but if you do it too much, it'll be such a bad habit and all you can do is masterbate to a porno video and not your own imagination.
No don't rely on one man's opinion, rather ask alot of men, old men that know. I know i did not express myself clearer.
What kind of adult films? How OFTEN? Hardcore? Softcore? If you consistently watch it together, then there is no problem, just don't rely on the porno movie to be aroused, it will start becoming a habit.
But you are married for 20 years, that's great Goofyfish, watching alone and masturbating to it, I object against.
No, but I did not make myself clear.
You are what you repeatedly do, things will become habit.
If you do masturbate ONLY to porno movies, this will indeed become a habit.
You are so used to such porno movies, that it's the only thing that could possibly turn you on. Picture this, I will take an extreme case.
Everyday, you come home, porno, masturbate. The next day, same thing. You keep doing it, your arousals will ONLY respond to those porno movies.
But I see you watch it with your wife, so that is perfectly fine.
Peace.
Even watching it by yourself is fine. Like I said I went through the same little period that every coming-of-age boy goes through where porn is very cool. Never hurt my abilitiy to get aroused by something else.
I know I seem to you to be some poster boy for everything you argue against but I'm just being honest. If porn is the only thing that can get you off the porn ain't the problem.
I know I seem to you to be some poster boy for everything you argue against but I'm just being honest. If porn is the only thing that can get you off the porn ain't the problem.
~The_Chosen~
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Tyler
That's my opinion, I am not saying anyone else is wrong. It's my conviction. I do not use my conviction and tell other people they are wrong. The problem lies in using your convictions to tell others that they are wrong and imposing your convictions on them
Look at religions.
I do respect those views. My opinion, Tyler, I don't watch porno, because I don't need it to be aroused.
Once again, I did not say it was wrong.
Watch it everyday, masturbate to it everyday, or several few times a day...you'll see how much it will indeed affect your view of "arousal"
No, he always watched porno when he was young, he can't help it, it has become a habit for him. His wife does not compare to the porno stars visually, camera angles, lighting, video shots, no real women looks that good.
He has seek help, his wife is so emotionally damaged, it's a sad story.
What is up with people and them telling me I AM WRONG?! This is utter bullshit, I never tell people they are wrong. Convictions are convictions, conflicts arise when you start saying your conviction is right over mine. Tyler, you have alot to learn, you are intelligent.
Everyone has different opinions Tyler, how can you say mine is wrong just because you don't see women as sex objects. What the WHOLE POINT of porno? Just like how you said you were natural with women to say my advice is wrong?
Guys are after women, not every single guy, but it's a safe genelization to make, Tyler.
My opinion, once people get laid more often, porno is chump stuff.
Cases like Goofyfish are exceptions, since he watches it together with his wife.
Same as using vibrators for sex with your partners. I object using it solely for yourself, you're implying the vibrator can please you other than your partner.
That's my opinion, I am not saying anyone else is wrong. It's my conviction. I do not use my conviction and tell other people they are wrong. The problem lies in using your convictions to tell others that they are wrong and imposing your convictions on them
Look at religions.
I do respect those views. My opinion, Tyler, I don't watch porno, because I don't need it to be aroused.
Once again, I did not say it was wrong.
Watch it everyday, masturbate to it everyday, or several few times a day...you'll see how much it will indeed affect your view of "arousal"
No, he always watched porno when he was young, he can't help it, it has become a habit for him. His wife does not compare to the porno stars visually, camera angles, lighting, video shots, no real women looks that good.
He has seek help, his wife is so emotionally damaged, it's a sad story.
What is up with people and them telling me I AM WRONG?! This is utter bullshit, I never tell people they are wrong. Convictions are convictions, conflicts arise when you start saying your conviction is right over mine. Tyler, you have alot to learn, you are intelligent.
Everyone has different opinions Tyler, how can you say mine is wrong just because you don't see women as sex objects. What the WHOLE POINT of porno? Just like how you said you were natural with women to say my advice is wrong?
Guys are after women, not every single guy, but it's a safe genelization to make, Tyler.
My opinion, once people get laid more often, porno is chump stuff.
Cases like Goofyfish are exceptions, since he watches it together with his wife.
Same as using vibrators for sex with your partners. I object using it solely for yourself, you're implying the vibrator can please you other than your partner.
Chosen:
Don't take this as criticism but....
NO woman can EVER compare to the women in porn, magazines, movies, etc. It ain't just porn. It's not simply a matter of one's prowess being compared to Jenna's.
It's simply that none of us can ever reach the level set forth in tv, magazines, movies, yadda yadda.
Porn is not the problem.
Don't take this as criticism but....
NO woman can EVER compare to the women in porn, magazines, movies, etc. It ain't just porn. It's not simply a matter of one's prowess being compared to Jenna's.
It's simply that none of us can ever reach the level set forth in tv, magazines, movies, yadda yadda.
Porn is not the problem.
"That's my opinion, I am not saying anyone else is wrong. It's my conviction. I do not use my conviction and tell other people they are wrong. The problem lies in using your convictions to tell others that they are wrong and imposing your convictions on them"
My mistake on assuming you thought porn was bad or wrong. However, you seemed to take that side on a two-sided debate.
"No, he always watched porno when he was young, he can't help it, it has become a habit for him. His wife does not compare to the porno stars visually, camera angles, lighting, video shots, no real women looks that good"
You think porno women are that attractive??? I never did. They always looked skanky to me.
"What is up with people and them telling me I AM WRONG?! This is utter bullshit, I never tell people they are wrong. Convictions are convictions, conflicts arise when you start saying your conviction is right over mine. Tyler, you have alot to learn, you are intelligent."
1) I am not intelligent and I resent being called that. It is a compliment that is too often thrown around.
2) Convictions are convictions. And this is a debate forum. So we are here to debate convictions. It's a perfectly acceptable topic to debate.
"Everyone has different opinions Tyler, how can you say mine is wrong just because you don't see women as sex objects. What the WHOLE POINT of porno? Just like how you said you were natural with women to say my advice is wrong?"
The point to porn is for men to jack off to. For some, it is one step better than their imagination. You insinuated that anyone who watches porn with some regularity will view women as sex objects. All I intended on doing was showing you that it's not true.
"Same as using vibrators for sex with your partners. I object using it solely for yourself, you're implying the vibrator can please you other than your partner."
Huh? You're against women using a vibrator for masturbation? Why?
My mistake on assuming you thought porn was bad or wrong. However, you seemed to take that side on a two-sided debate.
"No, he always watched porno when he was young, he can't help it, it has become a habit for him. His wife does not compare to the porno stars visually, camera angles, lighting, video shots, no real women looks that good"
You think porno women are that attractive??? I never did. They always looked skanky to me.
"What is up with people and them telling me I AM WRONG?! This is utter bullshit, I never tell people they are wrong. Convictions are convictions, conflicts arise when you start saying your conviction is right over mine. Tyler, you have alot to learn, you are intelligent."
1) I am not intelligent and I resent being called that. It is a compliment that is too often thrown around.
2) Convictions are convictions. And this is a debate forum. So we are here to debate convictions. It's a perfectly acceptable topic to debate.
"Everyone has different opinions Tyler, how can you say mine is wrong just because you don't see women as sex objects. What the WHOLE POINT of porno? Just like how you said you were natural with women to say my advice is wrong?"
The point to porn is for men to jack off to. For some, it is one step better than their imagination. You insinuated that anyone who watches porn with some regularity will view women as sex objects. All I intended on doing was showing you that it's not true.
"Same as using vibrators for sex with your partners. I object using it solely for yourself, you're implying the vibrator can please you other than your partner."
Huh? You're against women using a vibrator for masturbation? Why?
~The_Chosen~
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I'm talking about those Vivid porn, where they are enhanced video shots..etc. etc..
Yes, I agree, porn is part of the problem. Porn is "fake" arousal, you're getting aroused to women that are shot at certain camera angles, have the right amount of lighting to expose a nice view, photogenic potential, etc. etc.
Having sex with a real women is totally different. IMO, you don't need porno once you have a women, unless you are like Goofyfish, where it benefits both.
when you learn to control your urges, it will help you become better with women and exert more control over yourself (more power
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I think it is stupid, I'm voicing my opinion, I have no right to say another view is wrong.
You are truely different Tyler, I applaud that.
I know, but I never said you were wrong in your views. Just because I'm heterosexual, it's wrong for me to say homosexuality is wrong.
Well, I admit, but that is a very rare case. Most men that view porn see are more likely to view women as only sex objects. The whole point of porno is sex.
If she has me, I would not like her using it for masturbation. When we're together, no problem. That's insulting to me, a vibrator can please her more than I can? That is what I would think. It's like me jacking myself off and letting her go to sleep alone.
Any women with me needs no vibrator anyway, if they feel that urge I will satisfy it with whatever means, she must return the favor though, IMO oral sex works all the time.
"I think it is stupid, I'm voicing my opinion, I have no right to say another view is wrong."
I would argue that an opinion based on a false 'fact' is wrong.
"You are truely different Tyler, I applaud that."
Thanks. Now I'm sure I'll loose that by pointing out that there are of course a couple attractive ones in the business!
"Well, I admit, but that is a very rare case. Most men that view porn see are more likely to view women as only sex objects. The whole point of porno is sex."
Hm. A good amount of my peers (16 white male in upper-middle class toronto) view porn and they don't appear to see women as sex objects any more than any other man.
"If she has me, I would not like her using it for masturbation. When we're together, no problem. That's insulting to me, a vibrator can please her more than I can? That is what I would think. It's like me jacking myself off and letting her go to sleep alone."
You're 18? So a girlfriend you wouldn't live with I take it. So if you don't see her for, say, 3 days and she gets horny she's not allowed to use a vibrator? Despite that it no way indicates the vibrator does more than you?
And what of single women?
I would argue that an opinion based on a false 'fact' is wrong.
"You are truely different Tyler, I applaud that."
Thanks. Now I'm sure I'll loose that by pointing out that there are of course a couple attractive ones in the business!
"Well, I admit, but that is a very rare case. Most men that view porn see are more likely to view women as only sex objects. The whole point of porno is sex."
Hm. A good amount of my peers (16 white male in upper-middle class toronto) view porn and they don't appear to see women as sex objects any more than any other man.
"If she has me, I would not like her using it for masturbation. When we're together, no problem. That's insulting to me, a vibrator can please her more than I can? That is what I would think. It's like me jacking myself off and letting her go to sleep alone."
You're 18? So a girlfriend you wouldn't live with I take it. So if you don't see her for, say, 3 days and she gets horny she's not allowed to use a vibrator? Despite that it no way indicates the vibrator does more than you?
And what of single women?
~The_Chosen~
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False fact? What the heck are you smoking Tyler? So what you say is fact then? So how and where did you exactly prove me wrong?
You were scaring me for a moment Tyler
Good, but certainly you can't say that for all males, so my statement still stands.
This is my opinion, but I don't want no woman that can't control her own urges. I wouldn't be able to trust her. She wouldn't need a vibrator, she can let all the tension build and wait for me...anticipating everything
Creates extreme arousal.Single women, i don't object, they can do whatever they want with themselves. I just think it is disrespectful to use it for masturbating when you have a boyfriend, it's implying the bf hasn't pleased her enough.
Never happened to me, but that is how I would feel
I bet a women would feel the same if I bought one of those fuck dolls...how would she feel if I use that to get off instead of her It only shows self disrepect when you don't have any self control over what kind of material your feeding yourself. For example, sometimes people who watch porn get addicted, and cant say when enough is enough. And some people have such little respect for themselves, that although they might not admit it, they try to get involved and live in a fantasy world that just doesnt exist and choose to live their lives that way. These people can live dirty lives where they the only nookie they get is on the toilet while eating a cake. You know the kinda people I'm talking about. It's destructive rather than constructive.
And I'm not saying that it's neccessarily an evil thing. If you turn it into a constructive thing, then it can be good. Otherwise (which is most of the time) it's destructive. See what I'm getting at. Look at all the disgusting parts of the Porn Business. Some people involve innocent animals like dogs!! Talk about twisted. I doubt that kind of shit could ever be constructive.
Porn is Good!!!!!!
All you self-righteous people who claim that porn is corrupting the mind, and "not constructive" need to get a life, and understand the World you live in better.
Porn DOES serve a purpose for people, it allows us to view sexual situations and fantasies that are out of the realm of reality.
Just like a good comedy movie stimulates laughter in us.
Just like a good drama movie stimulates tension in us.
Just like a good action movie stimulates excitement in us.
Just like a good horror movie stimulates fear in us.
A good porn flick can get us going sexually.
Obviously, too much of ANYTHING is bad for you, but the vast majority of people who watch porn do it infrequently.
I feel sorry for those who take things like porno too seriously.
All you self-righteous people who claim that porn is corrupting the mind, and "not constructive" need to get a life, and understand the World you live in better.
Porn DOES serve a purpose for people, it allows us to view sexual situations and fantasies that are out of the realm of reality.
Just like a good comedy movie stimulates laughter in us.
Just like a good drama movie stimulates tension in us.
Just like a good action movie stimulates excitement in us.
Just like a good horror movie stimulates fear in us.
A good porn flick can get us going sexually.
Obviously, too much of ANYTHING is bad for you, but the vast majority of people who watch porn do it infrequently.
I feel sorry for those who take things like porno too seriously.
Triente Siete
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Pornography is perfectly fine and ethical. It helps develop sexuality in teenagers, and prevents them from using drugs or vandalizing property. It also creates income for millions of hopeless women with large breasts, and men with large penises.
And plus its fun.
And plus its fun.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pornogrophy: Good or Bad?
there are plenty of people here who spell worse than I do but why do some people pick on me? I feel flattered people are paying a lot of attention to my posts.
If you are going to pick on my spelling, you better make sure your own English perfect from now on because you can expect some kind of retaliation if you don't.
Originally posted by Increan
I just think it's funny you can't spell Masturbate.
there are plenty of people here who spell worse than I do but why do some people pick on me? I feel flattered people are paying a lot of attention to my posts.
If you are going to pick on my spelling, you better make sure your own English perfect from now on because you can expect some kind of retaliation if you don't.
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