Plantinga’s “Significant Freedom”

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lightgigantic you can hardly indicate a square inch of this world that isn't jam packed full of life

That's actually quite true if you are talking about actual life. About every square inch of planet is covered with some form of life. From pole to pole and to the bottom of our wells and mines.

 

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lightgigantic you can hardly indicate a square inch of this world that isn't jam packed full of life

That's actually quite true if you are talking about actual life. About every square inch of planet is covered with some form of life. From pole to pole and to the bottom of our wells and mines.

life is symptomatic of the soul

 

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lightgigantic life is symptomatic of the soul

poetic claim, unfortunately there the doesn't seem to be any souls to let it be actually true

 

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This third statement of Plantinga’s has as a foundation that god created creatures with the freedom to choose moral good. This freedom, however, allows creatures to chose evil as well. So it is not within god’s capacity to create a world containing moral good yet no moral evil. Along with the assertion that god exists, evil also exists.

This "logic" implies that all evil that exists is caused by creatures choosing it.

Chosen evil is not the type used to point out that no Deity of this world can be omnipotent, omniscient, and always benevolent. Only unchosen, unpreventable evil is used in that argument.

Pontine tumors in children, for example.

 

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lightgigantic life is symptomatic of the soul

poetic claim, unfortunately there the doesn't seem to be any souls to let it be actually true

meanwhile life as a materially reducible phenomena remains head and shoulders outside of any empiricist paradigms ....

 

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This "logic" implies that all evil that exists is caused by creatures choosing it.

Chosen evil is not the type used to point out that no Deity of this world can be omnipotent, omniscient, and always benevolent. Only unchosen, unpreventable evil is used in that argument.

Pontine tumors in children, for example.

The antithesis offered by Anthony Flew et al is about "chosen" evil. There are different arguments against what you deem "unchosen" evil ... namely karma, reincarnation etc etc

 

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iceaura This "logic" implies that all evil that exists is caused by creatures choosing it.

Starting with god choosing it above all else and creating the devil as his first creation.

Seems like a good omniscient deity would not create the devil as his first and best angel.

No wonder he came to earth to have himself tortured and the executed for his crimes.

Pontine tumors in children are not evil, they are just a natural albeit horribly tragic consequence of existence. Evil of this kind is a metaphysical accusation of the kind of being (god = "good" devil = "evil"). It is a matter of kind not a matter of consequence and has no natural example.